david boutflowers phonecall to colin.

[Jane]

i dont know about  your adress book but on mine c an p are  difrent padges.

and how come he had colins number anyway they been in contact for a long time.

Actually Nugs, the names in my address book are quite random, and can you show a little imagination and compassion here, please. I don't for a single moment think that Colin's number had been in his book PRIOR to the tragedy but the very LEAST he could do at such an appalling time in the family was exchange numbers even if they were barely on speaking terms with each other previously. Colin MAY only have been "family" by marriage but 3 members of the family to whom he was closely connected had been murdered.

[nugnug]

colin was very suprised he had called him he haent heard from him in a long time.

thats why i am suprised he still had colins number.

[Jane]

colin was very suprised he had called him he haent heard from him in a long time.

thats why i am suprised he still had colins number.

So you update your phone numbers frequently, do you?

It seems he must have already had Colin's number, doesn't it? No, DON'T ask. I have NO idea why. Perhaps he was prompted by osmosis to make the call. Who knows? Who CARES?

[Adam]

Who knows whether Jeremy smuggled hard drugs. Who cares.

Who knows if April has ever created a thread. And who cares ?

It is very relevant whether he had the courage and motivation to commit such a serious crime as smuggling heroin. If you read the thread and contributed, instead of making little pathetic comments on it,  you might realise this.

What DB and CC said to each other in a phone call is of no relevance. Nugnug has said he thinks it is. But has not elaborated despite my requests. 

[Caroline]

but colin was going to almost certanly read it in the papers anyway.

and as for meaninging to phone atony paregereter.

how do you ap mixed up with cc.

Which is the reason for the warning.

So you think there is something dodgy about a perfectly innocent phone call but without a shadow of evidence to suggest it was anything other, but you don't think Jeremy tried to sell pictures of his dead sister to the Sun? Adnif he did, this phone call is far more important?

You mentioned that Fielder wrote a book about Colin Stagg, he didn't, he wrote one about the Rachel Nickel murder.Then it was claimed that Fielder definitely wrote lies about Colin Stagg, what lies did he tell? (Have asked this before but no one answered).

[nugnug]

i dont belive it necarsrly was a perfectly innocent phonecall.

[Caroline]

i dont belive it necarsrly was a perfectly innocent phonecall.

What was it then?

[guest154]

What was it then?

Nugs has thrown everything he can at the meeting with the Sun paper, but none of it has stuck and  very little of it made sense to be honest.

Now because of the inability to damage the story he has taken it in another direction to try and make an innocent phone call between two people who actually knew each other into something sinister.

What a circus.   

[Adam]

Nugs has thrown everything he can at the meeting with the Sun paper, but none of it has stuck and  very little of it made sense to be honest.

Now because of the inability to damage the story he has taken it in another direction to try and make an innocent phone call between two people who actually knew each other into something sinister.

What a circus.   

Yes. It was a strange attack. Even by Jeremy's supporters standards.

I asked Nugnug's about it on page one. But didn't get a response.

[Jane]

Who knows if April has ever created a thread. And who cares ?

It is very relevant whether he had the courage and motivation to commit such a serious crime as smuggling heroin. If you read the thread and contributed, instead of making little pathetic comments on it,  you might realise this.

What DB and CC said to each other in a phone call is of no relevance. Nugnug has said he thinks it is. But has not elaborated despite my requests.

Your own offer neither pearls of wisdom nor insights to academic brilliance, rather, they win prizes for sly innuendo and spitefulness, yet you have the temerity to whine when your demands -sorry, requests- for response aren't met!!!

It matters NOT whether a man convicted to a FULL life tariff for 5 murders was possessed of "the courage?!!!! and motivation" to commit a far lesser crime.

Nugs is as entitled to his own thoughts as are you to yours and is under no compunction to elaborate., and I don't support his belief but I DO support his right to them. 

[Caroline]

Nugs has thrown everything he can at the meeting with the Sun paper, but none of it has stuck and  very little of it made sense to be honest.

Now because of the inability to damage the story he has taken it in another direction to try and make an innocent phone call between two people who actually knew each other into something sinister.

What a circus.   

Perhaps he really said 'We have finally got Jeremy arrested, we're all in on it and we're all going to lie - why don't you pretend Jeremy told you about some dodgy pics of Sheila and I'll get my mate from the Sun to pretend he had a meeting with him, where Jeremy offered them up for cash?" 

[Adam]

Your own offer neither pearls of wisdom nor insights to academic brilliance, rather, they win prizes for sly innuendo and spitefulness, yet you have the temerity to whine when your demands -sorry, requests- for response aren't met!!!

It matters NOT whether a man convicted to a FULL life tariff for 5 murders was possessed of "the courage?!!!! and motivation" to commit a far lesser crime.

Nugs as as entitled to his own thoughts as are you to yours and is under no compunction to elaborate.

Smuggling heroin can result in life sentences, in far worse prisons abroad. Or the death penalty.

The full life tariff in England was not in place in 1985.

Get caught smuggling heroin and you are caught red handed. There can be no claims of mysterious phone calls and crazy sisters.

So smuggling heroin shows he would really do anything to escape from farm life.

[maggie]

Smuggling heroin can result in life sentences, in far worse prisons abroad. Or the death penalty.

The full life tariff in England was not in place in 1985.

Get caught smuggling heroin and you are caught red handed. There can be no claims of mysterious phone calls and crazy sisters.

So smuggling heroin shows he would really do anything to escape from farm life.

Unfortunately your argument is built on sand Adam, no one knows whether JB smuggled heroin or not.

[Jane]

Smuggling heroin can result in life sentences, in far worse prisons abroad. Or the death penalty.

The full life tariff in England was not in place in 1985.

Get caught smuggling heroin and you are caught red handed. There can be no claims of mysterious phone calls and crazy sisters.

So smuggling heroin shows he would really do anything to escape from farm life.

There is proof enough -circumstantial and by default- that he murdered his family but NO proof that he smuggled heroin....................and what if he had? Just HOW would one add to a WHOLE life  tariff? The hypothetical question isn't worth getting your knickers twisted for...................IMO.

[Adam]

Unfortunately your argument is built on sand Adam, no one knows whether JB smuggled heroin or not.

Claire Powell said he boasted about it to friends.

Who is lying, Jeremy, Claire Powell or his friends ?

Or perhaps Jeremy is telling the truth, meaning his friends and Claire Powell are.