ahh there must have been another bombshell in the press then. Would be interesting to see the reports from that time.
- So colin and David spoke( after the photograph discussion about more slides that Jeremy agreed to hand back to colin) and david told him all about what was going to come out in the paper . I do remember now that Colin did say it was bad that the family had to feed him information about their discussions with the police.
So w don't know for sure that Colin did not tell DB about the slides . We don't know what connections DB had with the press or how far they would go to blacken his name.
So as far as I am concerned we still have a proven liar of a sun reporter against a possible Liar JB .
No real proof there then .
Jan, to anybody reasonable it is quite easy to see how they could have found out about the existence of pictures without Jeremy's assistance.
They were not the best kept secret. There were tabloid hacks digging for dirt, the relatives digging for dirt and apparently in contact with the press. DB's warning of a bombshell and claim that "we" had all been making statements to the police suggests an active role on his part. The prior knowledge of the bombshell also suggests quite strongly that there was contact between him and the press.
The notes that Ann and co. were making and their obvious attempts to sway Colin make it entirely plausible that the relatives found out via Colin.
Whilst much is made of the allegation that Jeremy supposedly used the same words to Fielder as he did to Colin this is not actually clear.
Colin says on his statement of the 24th:
"I asked Jeremy if I could take these slides so that I could destroy them. He agreed that I could take them which I did. Jeremy also told me there were some more slides of a similar nature, possibly two or three boxes, which were at his house in Head Street, Goldhanger, Essex.
Jeremy described these pictures as very explicit. He told me that one box was of Sheila sunbathing(previously described) and that the others were pornographic and similar to the slides at Sheila's flat." Where in that statement does he use the words attributed.
Later in the same statement Colin says:
"The reporter described how he met Jeremy Bamber and that Jeremy was offering pornographic pictures of Sheila for sale. In the article Jeremy is alleged to have said "they show everything, right down to the last detail".
This is exactly how Jeremy described the slides to me when I visited him on 7th September." Fielder's article, I imagine, was somewhat more than 9 words. In fact, it is generally accepted that his story included details of sex toys amongst other things. Are these the exact words that Jeremy used as well? What about the rest, presumably hundreds of other words in the article of proven liar and fabricator Fielding.
Were they all exactly as Jeremy described to Colin as well or did Fielder make these bits up, but not the nine words that suit.
Why is it that Colin, when explaining how Jeremy described the pictures to him, doesn't use the words attributed but only says that when he saw Fielders words that they were exactly the same? In the description given above Colin relates how Jeremy described the pictures as "pornographic", "very explicit", "sunbathing", "other slides similar in nature".
Also of note is that on the 9th September(two days after taking possession of one set of slides and having yet to arrange collecting the rest) Colin when called by DB was under the impression that the relatives were ganging up on Jeremy influenced by financial motives. He appeared to have no concerns about Jeremy selling the pictures at this point as he was certainly not going out of his way to obtain them.
As I am writing this it also suddenly becomes clear that the police would most likely have found out about the pictures. When Jeremy was arrested on the 8th September wouldn't the police have searched his property which is where the slides were?
From Jeremy's first arrest and release without charge and in the week or so following that leading up to the 17th September what do posters think the tabloids were printing about the story? As soon as anyone is arrested for a high profile crime the tabloids start trashing their reputations(think Chris Jeffries, Barry George, Colin Stagg ....). We know that there was a bombshell on the 10th according to the inside knowledge of DB. I doubt that between the 11th and 16th that the tabloids had no more stories on what was now a sensational story following Jeremy's arrest.
I don't think that it is unreasonable to assume that Jeremy will have had bad press all week. Common sense and simple knowledge of the tabloids tells you this. His story that he wanted to set the record straight has more a "ring of truth" than does Fielder's sleazy article, especially given Fielder's record.
I don't even think the whole story is likely or very plausible. To only say that it can't be proven either way, which it can't, implies an equivalence to both sides of the story which I don't think exists. On the balance of probability the story is more than likely untrue.
A supposed and not even proven strike rate of 9 words from hundreds written by a proven liar is not very good evidence in my book.
