Had Neville been up all night. If not when did he get out of bed ?

[lookout]

Hope you had a good one,Alias.

[Alias]

Because June WAS the main target,Neville too was in Sheila's bad books for siding with his wife,and not Sheila over the fostering of the children.June too had recently relapsed,healthwise, which gave Neville the added worry of two sick women and two little boys to tend to.
Jeremy didn't come into the equation. He'd gone home,possibly having heard the same discussion over and over.
I have no doubts whatsoever who the killer was.

It is natural to conclude that. If Nevill had been the main target and the couple were caught unawares in their sleep, which it looks like they were, the blood would have been on his side, not on June´s. There is no explaining that away.

[guest154]

It is natural to conclude that. If Nevill had been the main target and the couple were caught unawares in their sleep, which it looks like they were, the blood would have been on his side, not on June´s. There is no explaining that away.

Who slept closer to the door?

[Alias]

Who slept closer to the door?

Which door do you mean? I assume it is the one the shooter entered through, so that would have been June, and I can see where you are coming from; but Nevill would still have been a greater hurdle for the killer, so why shoot June first?

[lookout]

Who slept closer to the door?

June,by the looks of things.

[guest154]

Which door do you mean? I assume it is the one the shooter entered through, so that would have been June, and I can see where you are coming from; but Nevill would still have been a greater hurdle for the killer, so why shoot June first?

To instantly remove her from the equation. If you're the shooter, it makes the most sense to shoot whoever is closest to the door you've just entered.

Certainly doesn't suggest that she was the MAIN target, but just that she was closest to the entrance.

[scipio_usmc]

It is natural to conclude that. If Nevill had been the main target and the couple were caught unawares in their sleep, which it looks like they were, the blood would have been on his side, not on June´s. There is no explaining that away.

He planned to pretend he received a phone call from Nevill.  He couldn't kill Nevill in his sleep and yet still claim he received such a call.  He shot June first allowing his father to start to get up before targeting him expecting him to fall dead by the nightstand and likely planned to then put the phone back. But he ran out of bullets before he could kill Nevill and things progressed to the kitchen so he didn't bother replacing the phone.

[Alias]

He planned to pretend he received a phone call from Nevill.  He couldn't kill Nevill in his sleep and yet still claim he received such a call.  He shot June first allowing his father to start to get up before targeting him expecting him to fall dead by the nightstand and likely planned to then put the phone back. But he ran out of bullets before he could kill Nevill and things progressed to the kitchen so he didn't bother replacing the phone.

That is one hell of a risky plan! Not quite buying it.
To make things fit, one moment Jeremy has to have been cool and calculating, the next, a blathering idiot leaving behind the most obvious and incriminating evidence.

[scipio_usmc]

That is one hell of a risky plan! Not quite buying it.
To make things fit, one moment Jeremy has to have been cool and calculating, the next, a blathering idiot leaving behind the most obvious and incriminating evidence.

Julie said he told her he planned to say he received a distress call.  He told her about such plan before he carried out the murders.  He couldn't claim that June called him.  June would have woken up Nevill if Sheila was running around with a gun she would not have called Jeremy.  He had to pretend Nevill phoned him asking for help. He assumed that the shots he fired into Nevill would be able to kill him he didn't realize he would fail to do so and that he would then be engaged in a struggle.  He had to shoot 1 parent before the other so either way he risked the other one waking up and trying to jump him.  That is why he wanted a semi-auto rifle with a suitable magazine load though- so he could shoot one then shoot the other.  He wasn't standing right next to Nevill, so that Nevill could grab the rifle as he was shooting June.  He didn't see it as risky. He shot June then shot Nevill, the 4 shots simply failed to kill him like he anticipated.

[Caroline]

Who slept closer to the door?

June  . Nicely explained 

[guest154]

June  . Nicely explained 

I rest my case! 

[Caroline]

Which door do you mean? I assume it is the one the shooter entered through, so that would have been June, and I can see where you are coming from; but Nevill would still have been a greater hurdle for the killer, so why shoot June first?

Whoever the killer was, they intened to kill both June and Nevill - there was no 'main target'. If The killer was only interested in killing June, why did they also kill two sleeping boys? They were all the main targets.

[Alias]

Whoever the killer was, they intened to kill both June and Nevill - there was no 'main target'. If The killer was only interested in killing June, why did they also kill two sleeping boys? They were all the main targets.

I am talking about what would have been practical - for Jeremy. He would have to take a massive risk by not shooting Nevill first.

[guest154]

I am talking about what would have been practical - for Jeremy. He would have to take a massive risk by not shooting Nevill first.

He had a loaded gun, there was no phone in the bedroom, he'd removed it, he was standing in the doorway - he had caught them by suprise in the middle of the night. Neither of them posed a risk to him, he had the odds truly in his favour.

[Alias]

He had a loaded gun, there was no phone in the bedroom, he'd removed it, he was standing in the doorway - he had caught them by suprise in the middle of the night. Neither of them posed a risk to him, he had the odds truly in his favour.

Daunting though, right?