Had Neville been up all night. If not when did he get out of bed ?

[scipio_usmc]

He had a loaded gun, there was no phone in the bedroom, he'd removed it, he was standing in the doorway - he had caught them by suprise in the middle of the night. Neither of them posed a risk to him, he had the odds truly in his favour.

That certainly was how he viewed it plus he planned to pretend he received a distress call from Nevill so instead of shooting him lying in bed planned to shoot him as he was getting up or after he got up.

[Caroline]

I am talking about what would have been practical - for Jeremy. He would have to take a massive risk by not shooting Nevill first.

He evidently did get a few shots at Nevill, enough to make him less of a threat. We don't know how many times he shot June initially, he may have come back to finish the job after reloading and killing his father.

[Caroline]

Daunting though, right?

Not if you're standing holding a loaded gun.

[Alias]

Not if you're standing holding a loaded gun.

I don´t agree with that. The situation could easily get totally out of control, what was he thinking! And what about Sheila and the boys, didn´t he worry they might wake up and start running?

[Caroline]

I don´t agree with that. The situation could easily get totally out of control, what was he thinking! And what about Sheila and the boys, didn´t he worry they might wake up and start running?

That's your prerogative but if Nevill could have easily disarmed Jeremy (which I don't agree with) he could far easily have disarmed Sheila - you have the same problem whoever the killer was - but more of a risk of Sheila being disarmed.

[lookout]

3 adults yet no-one had the presence of mind to quickly dial 999 ? I don't buy it.
3 flights of stairs in the place ? A gunman/woman can't be in two places at once ?

[Alias]

3 adults yet no-one had the presence of mind to quickly dial 999 ? I don't buy it.
3 flights of stairs in the place ? A gunman/woman can't be in two places at once ?

That is one of the reasons I think that if Jeremy is the guilty one, he would have had an accomplice. Too many people in three different rooms - besides, he couldn´t know they all would actually be in their beds when he entered the house.

[guest154]

That is one of the reasons I think that if Jeremy is the guilty one, he would have had an accomplice. Too many people in three different rooms - besides, he couldn´t know they all would actually be in their beds when he entered the house.

When you break into your parents house late at night, I think you can feel pretty certain that people will be in bed though.

[Caroline]

3 adults yet no-one had the presence of mind to quickly dial 999 ? I don't buy it.
3 flights of stairs in the place ? A gunman/woman can't be in two places at once ?

They didn't need to be in two places at once, Nevill was already injured, so was June. You say no one had the presence of mind to quickly call 999 yet defend Jeremy when that accusation is levelled at him. 

[Caroline]

That is one of the reasons I think that if Jeremy is the guilty one, he would have had an accomplice. Too many people in three different rooms - besides, he couldn´t know they all would actually be in their beds when he entered the house.

at 3am?  - if he was just inside the main bedroom, he was in a good position to deal with all three adults.

[Alias]

When you break into your parents house late at night, I think you can feel pretty certain that people will be in bed though.

The thing is, elderly people tend to have to get up during the night to use the bathroom, so no. he couldn´t count on them being in bed.

[guest154]

The thing is, elderly people tend to have to get up during the night to use the bathroom, so no. he couldn´t count on them being in bed.

I guess they would have the bathroom light on if they were using the bathroom, visible from outside? Although I think that excuse is very weak to be honest.

[Caroline]

The thing is, elderly people tend to have to get up during the night to use the bathroom, so no. he couldn´t count on them being in bed.

Bit of a generalisation but they were in their sixties, not their 80's. Just because someone is older doesn't mean they automatically need the loo more.

[Alias]

I guess they would have the bathroom light on if they were using the bathroom, visible from outside? Although I think that excuse is very weak to be honest.

I am trying to imagine standing outside that house in the middle of the night right before entereing. Five people in three different rooms, a dog which might wake people up, the possibility that all were not in their beds. The strong possibility that Sheila at least would wake up from the noise of the first shots, if we assume June was shot first, then Nevill.
In all honesty, it seems daunting and close to impossible to me.

[Alias]

Bit of a generalisation but they were in their sixties, not their 80's. Just because someone is older doesn't mean they automatically need the loo more.

You just wait and see.... LOL