Familiar Portrait?

[guest154]

Mat I am quite aware of that but can you be one hundred percent certain Jeremy made it up no you can't and neither can I.

But you can judge it on probability & by going off what Jeremy told other people about the photos. If you believe that Jeremy got the photos from the family safe & that June had put them there then that's up to you - but I don't.

[guest154]

STFU,you.I'm repeating what's written in one of the books. Anything to cause unpleasantness !
It's YOU who's vile. Two-faced wimp that you are.

What book calls June barmy?

[Jane]

STFU,you.I'm repeating what's written in one of the books. Anything to cause unpleasantness !
It's YOU who's vile. Two-faced wimp that you are.

Lookout, I'm truly AMAZED that CP can say that of June. She didn't know her and she wasn't with her...............so how the HELL can she say that as if she was there?

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[Jan]

No.
Colin states what he says Jeremy told him.

He does - but a I said before he also is very uncomplimentary about June - saying he himself could have killed her ( his words not mine)


I still cant quite work out why - she had no way to put her side of the story - and if JB was guilty it had nothing whatsoever to do with the murders.

[lookout]

Pages 87 and 88 in CP's book explain how June was first suspected of the killings.

Page 82 of the same book is where I was damned to Hell over both the red and blue forum for having quoted what CP had written in her book referring to Sheila as a " poor demented creature ".
I never heard the last of saying " creature ".
Here is the context in which was written in,I quote," Gone was the anxious,sweet personality and in its place was a driven,tormented creature ",unquote.

Which was a description given by Sheila's friends as they noticed a huge difference in Sheila after her last visit/stay in hospital before the murders,and was how a friend had described her state of mind.

[lookout]

So,Mat,stop acting like a pox doctors clerk running onto the forum every time I post something that you THINK came out of MY mouth. I'm not given to making things up. Try reading CP's book yourself !!

[Caroline]

So,Mat,stop acting like a pox doctors clerk running onto the forum every time I post something that you THINK came out of MY mouth. I'm not given to making things up. Try reading CP's book yourself !!

It would help Lookout if you said it was a quote. I agree you shouldn't be castigated for what someone else has said, but if you don't mention that it's a quote from someone else, you can't blame people for presuming what you write are your own thoughts.

[Caroline]

But you can judge it on probability & by going off what Jeremy told other people about the photos. If you believe that Jeremy got the photos from the family safe & that June had put them there then that's up to you - but I don't.

Neither do I or AE and RB would have found them when they first opened the safe before Jeremy ever returned to WHF - post murders.

[guest154]

It would help Lookout if you said it was a quote. I agree you shouldn't be castigated for what someone else has said, but if you don't mention that it's a quote from someone else, you can't blame people for presuming what you write are your own thoughts.

I am still waiting to hear what book calls June, "barmy".

Neither do I or AE and RB would have found them when they first opened the safe before Jeremy ever returned to WHF - post murders.

June getting the photos and storing them in the safe is in absolutely no way believable. Good point on AE and RB.

[susan]

I am still waiting to hear what book calls June, "barmy".

June getting the photos and storing them in the safe is in absolutely no way believable. Good point on AE and RB.

If we are talking about the nude photo's that Colin took of Sheila when they first met Jeremy stated he found them in his Mum's bureau he never mentioned safe that is where the lump of cannabis was kept.

[guest154]

If we are talking about the nude photo's that Colin took of Sheila when they first met Jeremy stated he found them in his Mum's bureau he never mentioned safe that is where the lump of cannabis was kept.

I am not even sure what a bureau is. Like a writing table? Even less believable.

[susan]

I am not even sure what a bureau is. Like a writing table? Even less believable.

Mat why is that so hard to believe it was quite common place for ladies of that time to have their own bureau which is a place to keep your personal correspondence, photo's letters etc. Jeremy obviously knew what a bureau was the fact he mentioned it to Colin if he was making the whole story up why did he not say he found them at WHF.

[guest154]

Mat why is that so hard to believe it was quite common place for ladies of that time to have their own bureau which is a place to keep your personal correspondence, photo's letters etc. Jeremy obviously knew what a bureau was the fact he mentioned it to Colin if he was making the whole story up why did he not say he found them at WHF.

I am obviously NOT saying she didn't own a bureau! 
I don't believe that June found those photos of Sheila and stored them in her writing table. You may and that is fine - but I do not.

[susan]

I am obviously NOT saying she didn't own a bureau! 
I don't believe that June found those photos of Sheila and stored them in her writing table. You may and that is fine - but I do not.

Mat you are saying you don't know what a bureau is I do not believe I have said that I believed the story of the photo's the point I was making it was written by Colin in his book and lookout quoted from that other than adding the mouse traps) April accused lookout of trying to sully June's name she was just repeating what was said in the bloody book.

[Alias]

He does - but a I said before he also is very uncomplimentary about June - saying he himself could have killed her ( his words not mine)


I still cant quite work out why - she had no way to put her side of the story - and if JB was guilty it had nothing whatsoever to do with the murders.

That right there is the strangest thing in his book, and I couldn´t finish it. I cannot wrap my mind around this.
He is describing the trial and talking about the hate towards Jeremy that emanated from the relatives. So much so that he was afraid it might sway the jury to find Jeremy innocent.
He goes on to say that he himself couldn´t judge Jeremy, since he himself would have killed June if Jeremy hadn´t. For Heaven´s sake what about his sons?! Was it all about June for him - his hate for her stronger than his loss of his sons?
I can´t believe that, but that is what you have to conclude from his words. Just couldn´t read on.