Jeremy Supporters - To Do List!

[Jane]

In order to debate, you have to have an opposing view. Debating isn't criticising, it's simply disagreeing. If people are rude/sarcastic to me, then they deserve the same in return. That's just the way I see things - perhaps it's a fault that I don't rise above it.

Reading April's post, it sounds to me like she is saying she understands how hard it is to change your mind when you have had firm held beliefs for such a long time. I guess people are offended because she used the word 'nutty' but she also balanced that with 'noble' - I think she just means that some will think it's nutty (or stubborn) and some will think it it's noble (standing by principles). I am sure she will tell me if my analysis is incorrect though.

Spot on, Caroline. I couldn't have put it better myself

[Caroline]

Spot on, Caroline. I couldn't have put it better myself

And some people think I always see the bad 

[lookout]

And some people think I always see the bad 

Only in opposing posts.

[Caroline]

Only in opposing posts.

Well, it's 'SNAP' on that score! 

[David1819]

Hi David

I don't think it is up to us to prove anything one way or the other. Surely its up to Jeremy's defense team to do this, after all it is the defense team that is privy to all the case documents etc. 

Yes it is up to the supporters, Because the defence team can only go by the evidence/documents they have.

You will find no official documents or legal notes because the police, experts or family would not be foolish enough to document their conspiracy down into the legal framework. You will find no such legal documents signed and dated where the police discuss manufacturing evidence.

If a conspiracy has taken place it could only be unearthed by finding old letters and correspondence that where discussed secretly outside the official investigation. Or by spying on those involved and see if they implicated themselves in conversation with co conspirators and such conversation must be recorded. Hacking computers and intercepting e-mails of those involved (not advised)

Jeremy supporters must use the above methods to prove innocence, However be advised Telephone and Computer hacking is illegal, So is trespassing to obtain this information so do so at your own risk

[lookout]

Anything of that nature would have been well incinerated.

[Patti]

Yes it is up to the supporters, Because the defence team can only go by the evidence/documents they have.

You will find no official documents or legal notes because the police, experts or family would not be foolish enough to document their conspiracy down into the legal framework. You will find no such legal documents signed and dated where the police discuss manufacturing evidence.

If a conspiracy has taken place it could only be unearthed by finding old letters and correspondence that where discussed secretly outside the official investigation. Or by spying on those involved and see if they implicated themselves in conversation with co conspirators and such conversation must be recorded. Hacking computers and intercepting e-mails of those involved (not advised)

Jeremy supporters must use the above methods to prove innocence, However be advised Telephone and Computer hacking is illegal, So is trespassing to obtain this information so do so at your own risk

Hi David

I am not a member of his campaign team I am merely on a forum discussing the case with other members, its a hobby more than anything.  I love to discuss the case, look at the bullets, shell cases, read statements, look at the windows etc.  We can't and I think its impossible for us to do any more, plus I have not got the means or the courage to spy on people its not in my nature to do anything like that.  Why doesn't the campaign team hire a private detective to do it? 

I have never been 100% sure of his guilt, I always thought it could have been someone else and that Jeremy knew who it was, but that is just a thought and there is no way of proving it one way or the other. 

As it stands he is guilty in the eyes of the law.

I happen to believe that this could be wrong. 

[susan]

Hello Patti have you ever wondered why Sheila was so clean also why Jeremy did not dial 999 or indeed phone the police before Julie why waste so much time looking up the number of the local police station did he not think the situation warranted such immediate action.  When he arrived at WHF with the police he seemed to think the situation was quite grave.  As you may know I am reading Colin's book again   and he has just stated Sheila knew nothing at all about guns and would not have a clue how to even reload.  These are some of the reasons I changed from innocent to guilty not that you asked but thought I would tell you anyway

[lookout]

I would tend not to take notice of anyone who has sex behind his new wife's back on their wedding day.
Where's the trust for starters ?

[Patti]

Hello Patti have you ever wondered why Sheila was so clean also why Jeremy did not dial 999 or indeed phone the police before Julie why waste so much time looking up the number of the local police station did he not think the situation warranted such immediate action.  When he arrived at WHF with the police he seemed to think the situation was quite grave.  As you may know I am reading Colin's book again   and he has just stated Sheila knew nothing at all about guns and would not have a clue how to even reload.  These are some of the reasons I changed from innocent to guilty not that you asked but thought I would tell you anyway

Hi Susan

You can tell me I don't mind. 

I have often wondered about why Sheila was so clean, but the defense claimed she could have washed, I suppose it could be a possibility, but I think Scip explained there would hardly be any back spatter.  I disagree with that, because some shots were at close range and I find that difficult to except that there would be no spatter on her.....This is the 1 percent I can't explain.

Colin also said that Sheila would not allow the children to have toy guns, but one was found in the living/dining room at WHF....It could be that June had bought it and that Sheila had no say in it.....

[susan]

Hi Susan

You can tell me I don't mind. 

I have often wondered about why Sheila was so clean, but the defense claimed she could have washed, I suppose it could be a possibility, but I think Scip explained there would hardly be any back spatter.  I disagree with that, because some shots were at close range and I find that difficult to except that there would be no spatter on her.....This is the 1 percent I can't explain.

Colin also said that Sheila would not allow the children to have toy guns, but one was found in the living/dining room at WHF....It could be that June had bought it and that Sheila had no say in it.....

hahaha Patti think you need to modify your post before I can proceed further reading it not sure what to expect

[lookout]

One thing laughed at another there.Not allowed toy guns,yet there was a cupboard full of the real thing when they stayed at WHF. Where Colin dropped them off.Had he forgotten ?

[David1819]

Hi David

I am not a member of his campaign team I am merely on a forum discussing the case with other members, its a hobby more than anything.  I love to discuss the case, look at the bullets, shell cases, read statements, look at the windows etc.  We can't and I think its impossible for us to do any more, plus I have not got the means or the courage to spy on people its not in my nature to do anything like that.  Why doesn't the campaign team hire a private detective to do it? 

I have never been 100% sure of his guilt, I always thought it could have been someone else and that Jeremy knew who it was, but that is just a thought and there is no way of proving it one way or the other. 

As it stands he is guilty in the eyes of the law.

I happen to believe that this could be wrong. 

I'm not saying you have to do this or putting any weight on your shoulders, I'm just telling the supporters what needs to be done otherwise their efforts are futile.

I too simply like to discuss the case and debate things. We will have to see if any Bamber fanatics are prepared to actually go out and try to unearth a conspiracy that is the only option for them.

[guest2181]

hahaha Patti think you need to modify your post before I can proceed further reading it not sure what to expect

Toilet humour. 

[susan]

Toilet humour. 

Hartley shall we report her for offensive language