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Offline David1819

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Jeremy Supporters - To Do List!
« on: May 07, 2015, 12:26:AM »
30 Years have now passed and Jeremy's supporters have failed to free him.

The forensics point to him in all directions despite the police errors and inconsistencies. Therefore you must find the only potential evidence that could free him (if it exists)

The Following is pivotal

1) Find smoking gun evidence of a police conspiracy
    1a) Ensure the police and co conspirators in the police force confess to the conspiracy
    1b) Gather enough police testimony that the conspiracy theory is a conspiracy fact

2) Find smoking gun evidence of gross misconduct and incompetence of the expert witnesses
    2a) For example collaborating with the police conspiracy
    2b) Being to incompetent to notice the police conspiracy

3) Find smoking gun evidence of extended family conspiracy to set him up
    3a) Such as audio recordings or data interpreted from telephone calls (Spying/Hacking not advised)
    3b) Evidence of police incompetence to not notice the conspiracy of a set up.

Once you have obtained all from the list above you can then proceed to final part of the To Do List

4) Arrange Jeremy's release and freedom party

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For non supporters you just have to wait and see if anything is produced and ticked off the list.

           
« Last Edit: May 07, 2015, 01:33:AM by david1819 »

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Re: Jeremy Supporters - To Do List!
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2015, 12:38:AM »
Is it really up to us to do that.. ;)

Personally I do not think there will be any new evidence after 30 years.  However, I do believe there was gross misconduct shown when the powers to be destroyed evidence when DNA was about to make a scientific breakthrough.  Evidence that might have made nailed his innocence or further proved his guilt. 


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Re: Jeremy Supporters - To Do List!
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2015, 01:39:AM »
Is it really up to us to do that.. ;)

Personally I do not think there will be any new evidence after 30 years.  However, I do believe there was gross misconduct shown when the powers to be destroyed evidence when DNA was about to make a scientific breakthrough.  Evidence that might have made nailed his innocence or further proved his guilt.

Yes, Its all well and good saying he is innocent but at the end of the day one must prove the points I have made above.

Too long have Jeremy supporters just repeated the same inconsistencies and oddities around the case thinking that if they repeat it enough times he will be released but that is not feasible. For Jeremy to be released they must prove a conspiracy or moral motivated corruption has produced the evidence that convicted him in order to secure his release.

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Re: Jeremy Supporters - To Do List!
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2015, 04:08:AM »
(Ultimate to do) - Stop living in denial - the man is 100% guilty
Few people have the imagination for reality

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Re: Jeremy Supporters - To Do List!
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2015, 04:10:AM »
Yes, Its all well and good saying he is innocent but at the end of the day one must prove the points I have made above.

Too long have Jeremy supporters just repeated the same inconsistencies and oddities around the case thinking that if they repeat it enough times he will be released but that is not feasible. For Jeremy to be released they must prove a conspiracy or moral motivated corruption has produced the evidence that convicted him in order to secure his release.

They won't because they can't.
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Re: Jeremy Supporters - To Do List!
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2015, 05:13:AM »
(Ultimate to do) - Stop living in denial - the man is 100% guilty

If one accepts that, then they are not bound by the supporters to do list as they will no longer be a supporter

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Re: Jeremy Supporters - To Do List!
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2015, 05:14:AM »
They won't because they can't.

If they believe he is innocent its the only way  ;)

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Re: Jeremy Supporters - To Do List!
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2015, 05:24:AM »
Yes, Its all well and good saying he is innocent but at the end of the day one must prove the points I have made above.

Too long have Jeremy supporters just repeated the same inconsistencies and oddities around the case thinking that if they repeat it enough times he will be released but that is not feasible. For Jeremy to be released they must prove a conspiracy or moral motivated corruption has produced the evidence that convicted him in order to secure his release.

I wish! A slightly convincing argument would be a breath of fresh air.

David, you've made some really good topics lately btw.

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« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2015, 11:13:AM »
If they believe he is innocent its the only way  ;)

Well, lets see what they come up with but bet the topic of off topic in no time and the 'to do' list will be lost in the ether.
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Re: Jeremy Supporters - To Do List!
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2015, 12:47:PM »
I wish! A slightly convincing argument would be a breath of fresh air.

David, you've made some really good topics lately btw.

Yes I agree with that .

David has made some good posts and threads. He does genuinely try to look at things from both sides which is the whole point of discussion.

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« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2015, 12:51:PM »
How easy just to say he's a murdering b'stard. End of.

Whatever I post gets shot down in flames immediately,so I don't see the point in further explaining my reasons for saying that he's not guilty.

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Re: Jeremy Supporters - To Do List!
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2015, 01:17:PM »
How easy just to say he's a murdering b'stard. End of.

Whatever I post gets shot down in flames immediately,so I don't see the point in further explaining my reasons for saying that he's not guilty.


Lookout, I suspect the reason for it lays in that the only solid reason you give for that belief is "knowing" from the start that he didn't do it and the only way in which you seek to prove right your belief is by labelling as lying bar-stewards EVERYONE else connected with the crime. You have never yet addressed satisfactorily the question of WHY? 

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Re: Jeremy Supporters - To Do List!
« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2015, 01:32:PM »
Yes, Its all well and good saying he is innocent but at the end of the day one must prove the points I have made above.

Too long have Jeremy supporters just repeated the same inconsistencies and oddities around the case thinking that if they repeat it enough times he will be released but that is not feasible. For Jeremy to be released they must prove a conspiracy or moral motivated corruption has produced the evidence that convicted him in order to secure his release.

Hi David

I don't think it is up to us to prove anything one way or the other. Surely its up to Jeremy's defense team to do this, after all it is the defense team that is privy to all the case documents etc. 

All we do is discuss the case and read limited documents on a forum because either we support Jeremy or do not support him, but like to discuss the case out of interest. 

I think gross misconduct can be proved, but I doubt the CCRC would except it.  The CCRC will only except new evidence or something that can be put forward by a change of law.

As it stands after 30 years, new modern science etc has not been able to prove anything in Jeremy's favor, nor has his legal team been able to get to a point where they have won a judicial review after the last rejection by the CCRC.

Jeremy Bamber was found guilty of killing his family, the only thing remains 30 years on is that he says he did not do it, and the only thing that will get him out is new evidence or a change in law.  We wont be able to get him out, for we are closed group of people trying to discuss the case with a limited resource.

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Re: Jeremy Supporters - To Do List!
« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2015, 01:36:PM »

Lookout, I suspect the reason for it lays in that the only solid reason you give for that belief is "knowing" from the start that he didn't do it and the only way in which you seek to prove right your belief is by labelling as lying bar-stewards EVERYONE else connected with the crime. You have never yet addressed satisfactorily the question of WHY?





The reason why is evident.There was no evidence,forensic or otherwise.
It's FAR easier to say he did do it.

I could just as easily change tack to make life easier for me on here, and start calling him fit to burn,which is mainly the reason that he was convicted in the first place,but I CAN'T/WON'T do that because I made up my mind 30 years ago that it wasn't him,and like Jeremy,it's very difficult to be as satisfactorily honest when you've got Uncle Tom Cobley and all against you,and no alibi to speak of.

I'm keeping a lot of thoughts to myself as well,which I won't post.
 How on earth Jeremy has kept going trying to convince the world that he didn't murder anyone,I don't know. It's some feat !

I simply and honestly can't find ANYTHING pinning him to the murders,and that's the truth.

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Re: Jeremy Supporters - To Do List!
« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2015, 01:36:PM »
i hardly think the crcc wil exept our posts as evedence.