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Offline Caroline

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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #1065 on: May 28, 2015, 06:54:PM »
I am just posting this - previously posted because as I said I was interested in the timing of the meeting with the newspaper as it would seem extremely stupid for JB to be drawing attention to himself in this way.



"Here's a piece about Jeremys questioning
Vic you can pull me up if you think anything is wrong here



After his first arrest on the 8th of September, he was questioned for four days sometimes until 11pm at night.  Police constantly pressed him on the positioning of the gun accusing him of telling some police officers that the rifle was on the table, but he was adamant the gun was on the settle.  DS Stan Jones asked him if he had or hadn’t fired the gun.  He was insistent that he had not fired the rifle.  They went over and over the telephone call from his father.  The records of these interviews span for hundreds of pages.  DS Jones told Jeremy that Julie had said that he had called her before calling the police which contradicted what both he and Julie had initially told police. The time of the call needed to be ‘fixed’ at a much earlier time for the prosecution to state that he called Julie first.

After days of questioning Jeremy gave in with confusion and said that maybe he did call Julie first.  This single discrepancy was used against Jeremy although it actually has no real bearing on the facts; whether he called Julie first or the police second the events still happened just as he had said.  Since the interview Jeremy has maintained that he called the police before he called Julie.  There are no other discrepancies in Jeremy’s accounts throughout his 27 years.

Through all of the witness accounts, many people have altered their accounts and statements contradict each other, there is only one account which remains the same to this day and it is the account of Jeremy Bamber.  This is because it is the truth and the truth does not alter, other witnesses have exaggerated and embellished their original accounts in the media and to different police enquiries.  Jeremy had coped with the strain of the continual questioning and by comparison with other miscarriages of justice his version of accounts has not altered; he has never confessed nor altered his story under duress.

After his first arrest and release without charge Jeremy was approached by the newspapers for his story.  Naively he went to meet with one after his solicitor advised him against it.  But Jeremy was tired of being vilified by the newspapers after his arrest and wanted to tell his story.  Jeremy said that Brett Collins also advised that he should go to meet with the journalist. But the Sun journalist wasn’t interested in Jeremy’s account, and continually asked questions about Sheila Caffell and requested any modelling pictures which might have been pornographic.  Jeremy had told him that there were none and that there might have been some topless ones but Colin Caffell would have those.  The journalist ran the story reporting that the newspaper had been offered these pictures and they also went to the police. The newspaper never obtained pictures of Sheila, because they didn’t exist, further proof that Jeremy Bamber had not intended to sell any pictures to the newspaper.

Jeremy’s efforts to tell his story had gone disastrously wrong, this coupled with the burglary at the caravan park made the outlook very bleak.  Stories escalated about Jeremy’s relationship with Brett Collins and his trips abroad.  Acquaintances turned their backs on him and his often eccentric, foolish behaviour and socializing with homosexuals was amplified by local gossip.  His enjoyment of cannabis, later down classified to a class C drug and frequently used by the middle classes was also a major point of “criminality” used by the prosecution.  He was presented as having spent a lot of money on holidays but the reality was on his trip to Amsterdam he, Brett and Julie had shared the same room to economise.

After his arrest the trip to the South of France was glamorized but the fact was that Jeremy and Brett stayed in a caravan to keep the costs low.  Anything to escape the now intrusive and destructive glare of the media, Jeremy was an innocent man subjected to similar treatment as other people who are vilified in the press and subsequently released without charge.

Jeremy had continued smoking pot, taking prescribed sedatives[10] and alcohol to drown out the shock, pain and sorrow.  His arrest and high media profile prompted his new love Virginia to turn her back on him.   Julie had contrived a convoluted story to the police, and his relatives had turned against him and by their own admission, were taking belongings from his family home without permission.[11] Even Colin Caffell had become distant and had written to him saying that the relatives had insisted that Jeremy was duping him and was definitely guilty and Colin didn’t know what to believe now his beautiful twins were dead and Jeremy had been arrested and released without charge.[12"

Selling the photographs at all is stupid but he tried to! Is the above from the OS? I assume it is because of the excuses held within it.
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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #1066 on: May 28, 2015, 06:55:PM »





I'm not falling for that one.What do you think I am ?

In denial!
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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #1067 on: May 28, 2015, 06:59:PM »
To be totally honest Jan, I think you are defending Jeremy and doing the same as Gringo, you're ignoring what Colin actually said in favour of things you think he SHOULD have said or would have preferred him to say. Read his statement again because he refers to the pictures hHE took as soft 'PORNOGRAPHY' and the ones Jeremy explained to him were A LOT MORE EXPLICIT.

Yes, I did indeed say the above but I also told you that I made excuses for Jeremy - I admit it, it's a shame others can't do the same when we have more information about the situation than we did back then. How can the journalist be exaggerating when it was Jeremy who explained the pictures? Both you and Gringo ignore the FACT that Colin said they were described in exactly the same way as Jeremy had described them to him.

You can drag up what I said in the past all you like, I was WRONG and I made excuses for him. Not no more!! He tried to sell pictures of his dead sister of that I am sure. Whether the pictures existed or not or were pornographic in nature isn't the point - the point is that a so call grieving man who had just lost his family TRIED TO SELL explicit pictures of his dead sister.



But as he DIDN'T sell them, ie no money changed hands, apparently he's not guilty of doing anything wrong ;)

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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #1068 on: May 28, 2015, 07:00:PM »

you would of thought they would but im geussing some of the more explicit details come from the rather depraved imagentations of tabliod journlists.

But again, whatever exaggeration The Sun applied (or not) is NOT the point, the point is that he described them to both the journalist and Colin in the same way and tried to sell pictures of his dead sister!! It's despicable but people are still making excuses for him - amazing!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #1069 on: May 28, 2015, 07:01:PM »
In denial!







No way.I've got every confidence that Jeremy is innocent.

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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #1070 on: May 28, 2015, 07:01:PM »


But as he DIDN'T sell them, ie no money changed hands, apparently he's not guilty of doing anything wrong ;)

It's not that he didn't sell them, he was turned down, even a Sun reporter was disgusted by him - now that's saying something!!
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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #1071 on: May 28, 2015, 07:02:PM »






No way.I've got every confidence that Jeremy is innocent.

Never mind, that dingy might turn up soon!  ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #1072 on: May 28, 2015, 07:06:PM »
Never mind, that dingy might turn up soon!  ;D ;D ;D ;D







I don't mind.It's still better than a lifebelt, ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #1073 on: May 28, 2015, 07:08:PM »
Jan you must stop supporting Jeremy. Caroline, April and Susan have changed stance while Grahame and Jackie no longer post.

Mike has a grudge against the police after spending time inside. He also shared a cell with Jeremy for an hour. So has decided the campaign will be his purpose in life.
 
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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #1074 on: May 28, 2015, 07:24:PM »


But as he DIDN'T sell them, ie no money changed hands, apparently he's not guilty of doing anything wrong ;)

I never said that he did nothing wrong ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

In your world Jeremy is a liar. The sun are liars . So two liars against each other so as usual we are no wiser.

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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #1075 on: May 28, 2015, 07:31:PM »
Jan you must stop supporting Jeremy. Caroline, April and Susan have changed stance while Grahame and Jackie no longer post.

Mike has a grudge against the police after spending time inside. He also shared a cell with Jeremy for an hour. So has decided the campaign will be his purpose in life.

You are a total and complete idiot . I have not one bit of respect or interest for your posts.


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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #1076 on: May 28, 2015, 07:32:PM »
I never said that he did nothing wrong ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

In your world Jeremy is a liar. The sun are liars . So two liars against each other so as usual we are no wiser.


Jan, I wasn't referring to you!!!! It was Lookout who suggested it along with a comment about a fuss about nothing. I feel sure she will verify it.

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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #1077 on: May 28, 2015, 07:33:PM »
Never mind, that dingy might turn up soon!  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Allegedly very soon -don't worry you wont have to join us there is not much room.

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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #1078 on: May 28, 2015, 07:39:PM »

Jan, I wasn't referring to you!!!! It was Lookout who suggested it along with a comment about a fuss about nothing. I feel sure she will verify it.






What's non-evidence got to do with a fuss about nothing ? I thought it had everything to do with bagging the right person for the crime.

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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #1079 on: May 28, 2015, 07:45:PM »
I never said that he did nothing wrong ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

In your world Jeremy is a liar. The sun are liars . So two liars against each other so as usual we are no wiser.

Colin is not a liar though!!
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