The meeting with The Sun newspaper:

[lookout]

Running with that belief, if silence is evidence -although of what, I don't know- then all the voices who answered your question must be evidence .

I'd said all I was going to say about the photo's/slides whatever they were. That was my answer,not some cobbled up embellishment about evidence.

Blimey,all this because I happened to ask what evidence EP had to charge Jeremy with murder.

[Jan]

Why are you still saying it's the sun VS Jeremy? It's surely The Sun & Colin VS Jeremy...you keep convieniently forgetting about Colin, Jan.

No I do not - I read the book .

I don't believe colin is a liar..

I never said the photos did not exist .

But it was being said on here that they were pornographic and mentioned other sordid details that might not be true. Jeremy gave his version of the meeting and the Sun gave another.

I have never defended the actions I was trying to establish who lied about the details of the meeting  and whether I believe the sun had such high morals as to have refused the photos ( that they never saw)

And I questioned the fact that if they were that bad that they would have been left in a drawer.

TBH I am no nearer knowing which version is correct.

Do I believe the police can influence the press to their own agenda - yes I do .

[Caroline]

I'd said all I was going to say about the photo's/slides whatever they were. That was my answer,not some cobbled up embellishment about evidence.

Blimey,all this because I happened to ask what evidence EP had to charge Jeremy with murder.

Not because you asked that, but because you can't answer April's question. You know Jeremy was wrong so you can't answer to 1-10 question. 

[Caroline]

No I do not - I read the book .

I don't believe colin is a liar..

I never said the photos did not exist .

But it was being said on here that they were pornographic and mentioned other sordid details that might not be true. Jeremy gave his version of the meeting and the Sun gave another.

I have never defended the actions I was trying to establish who lied about the details of the meeting  and whether I believe the sun had such high morals as to have refused the photos ( that they never saw)

And I questioned the fact that if they were that bad that they would have been left in a drawer.

TBH I am no nearer knowing which version is correct.

Do I believe the police can influence the press to their own agenda - yes I do .

Colin mentions the word 'pornography' - he said that the pictures he took were soft porn BUT that the ones Jeremy described were far more explicit. He doesn't say what Sheila is doing but perhaps he is trying to maintain her last vestiges of dignity? He certainly didn't come out and say that the article 'exaggerated' the content - that suggestion is coming from here and Jeremy is now denying they even exist. If there is one person out of the three who is lying no matter what - it's Jeremy.

[SaraT]

Not because you asked that, but because you can't answer April's question. You know Jeremy was wrong so you can't answer to 1-10 question. 

It's supposed to be a discussion not an interogation, if anyone puts an opposing view forward they get jumped on. If there were none of us here who believed JB to be innocent all the rest of you would all just have to spend all day agreeing with each other all day and working yourselves up into a frenzy about what a rotter he is.

[Jane]

It's supposed to be a discussion not an interogation, if anyone puts an opposing view forward they get jumped on. If there were none of us here who believed JB to be innocent all the rest of you would all just have to spend all day agreeing with each other all day and working yourselves up into a frenzy about what a rotter he is.

What irony. It was only a couple of weeks back that we -members of the guilty party- were saying that, was it not for our presence, it -the forum-, would be like a tea party with everyone agreeing what a nice boy was Jeremy and how none of this was his fault. :D :D :D

[SaraT]

What irony. It was only a couple of weeks back that we -members of the guilty party- were saying that, was it not for our presence, it -the forum-, would be like a tea party with everyone agreeing what a nice boy was Jeremy and how none of this was his fault. :D :D :D

Haha really? 😃😃

[SaraT]

Ps I am not saying anything like that, I just truly don't think he's guilty

[Jan]

What irony. It was only a couple of weeks back that we -members of the guilty party- were saying that, was it not for our presence, it -the forum-, would be like a tea party with everyone agreeing what a nice boy was Jeremy and how none of this was his fault. :D :D :D

I quite liked it when was a tea party - we then managed to have proper discussions and debate because we were still asking questions and I don't remember anyone saying he was a nice boy , because we don't know him.

I think most of us whether we had doubts or not were searching for the truth.


Now I feel it has got very nasty on here  IMO!!!!!!!!!!

I am glad you and Caroline have found your truth - it must be such a relief  - but please excuse the rest of us if we are not as convinced as you  because I have not seen anything yet which has swayed me - not even Adam ( personally I think he needs support)

[SaraT]

I quite liked it when was a tea party - we then managed to have proper discussions and debate because we were still asking questions and I don't remember anyone saying he was a nice boy , because we don't know him.

I think most of us whether we had doubts or not were searching for the truth.


Now I feel it has got very nasty on here  IMO!!!!!!!!!!

I am glad you and Caroline have found your truth - it must be such a relief  - but please excuse the rest of us if we are not as convinced as you  because I have not seen anything yet which has swayed me - not even Adam ( personally I think he needs support)

I do agree

[nugnug]

No I do not - I read the book .

I don't believe colin is a liar..

I never said the photos did not exist .

But it was being said on here that they were pornographic and mentioned other sordid details that might not be true. Jeremy gave his version of the meeting and the Sun gave another.

I have never defended the actions I was trying to establish who lied about the details of the meeting  and whether I believe the sun had such high morals as to have refused the photos ( that they never saw)

And I questioned the fact that if they were that bad that they would have been left in a drawer.

TBH I am no nearer knowing which version is correct.

Do I believe the police can influence the press to their own agenda - yes I do .

there morales they decided to tell everybody what was supposed to be in the phoyos when they could of just said porn.

[Caroline]

It's supposed to be a discussion not an interogation, if anyone puts an opposing view forward they get jumped on. If there were none of us here who believed JB to be innocent all the rest of you would all just have to spend all day agreeing with each other all day and working yourselves up into a frenzy about what a rotter he is.

There are more innocent supporters here than guilty so that argument could be switched right back at you! Why don't you post something that proves the article was a fraud? I'm arguing that the evidence which is overwhelming and if people keep denying what is blatantly obvious, they shouldn't be surprised if they loose. Post some proof and not just excuses.

[Caroline]

I quite liked it when was a tea party - we then managed to have proper discussions and debate because we were still asking questions and I don't remember anyone saying he was a nice boy , because we don't know him.

I think most of us whether we had doubts or not were searching for the truth.


Now I feel it has got very nasty on here  IMO!!!!!!!!!!

I am glad you and Caroline have found your truth - it must be such a relief  - but please excuse the rest of us if we are not as convinced as you  because I have not seen anything yet which has swayed me - not even Adam ( personally I think he needs support)

This thread isn't about whether he guilty or not, it's about whether he tried to sell pictures of his dead sister. I get the impression that people make excuses because they think agreeing that he sold them somehow weakens their argument that he's innocent. I'll be honest and say that it my opinion it does but it still doesn't mean he killed anyone.

If I had seen the video and read what Colin said previously when I thought he was innocent, there is no way I could have backed the notion that he didn't try to sell the pictures. I may not have changed my mind about guilt on that basis but I couldn't have defended him or made excuses. The argument about The Sun falls flat because of Colin.

[Patti]

I can't defend Jeremy on this, but I do question whether or not he was influenced by Brett.

There are many pictures of Sheila in the press, one of them is in a bikini. I would like to know whether that was sold or given and who by?

I am still of the belief that the introduction of sex aids is sensationalized by the gutter press. 

[SaraT]

There are more innocent supporters here than guilty so that argument could be switched right back at you! Why don't you post something that proves the article was a fraud? I'm arguing that the evidence which is overwhelming and if people keep denying what is blatantly obvious, they shouldn't be surprised if they loose. Post some proof and not just excuses.

I'm not making excuses, and I can't prove the article is a fraud any more than you can prove it isn't.
Are there really more innocent supporters? It seems the other way round to me but I could be wrong