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Offline Caroline

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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #930 on: May 27, 2015, 07:58:PM »
if he tried to sell that them it does make it more likely but the operative word is if.

Well, I don't think there is any question that he did try to sell them.
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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #931 on: May 27, 2015, 07:59:PM »

 :o  guilty conscience?

I never said names at all ?

To be fair though Jan, I don't think you needed to. It was pretty clear who you were talking about. Who else has changed their opinions on the case since then?

if he tried to sell that them it does make it more likely but the operative word is if.

It shows his character, yes.



These are the words I was referring to

"But you don't mind that he sold them "

That is not true.

That is putting words into my mouth.



Colin wrote the book after the article presumably and I am not making "excuses"  but could he have believed the sun and then Exaggerated what JB told him? Possibly.

To balance the debate  ; I do believe Colin on most things he has no reason to lie - but to be honest he has very little to say about Jeremy in the book and perhaps on this he got a bit confused.

So the facts are only Jeremy and Brett saw the photos and what they were actually like. But someone somewhere must know - because someone took them.



Or perhaps he wasn't confused and actually meant what he said and what he wrote.

Well, I don't think there is any question that he did try to sell them.

Me either, not if you're being honest and not just scared to see Jeremy in any sort of negative light.

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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #932 on: May 27, 2015, 08:00:PM »
Well, I don't think there is any question that he did try to sell them.

Colin suspected he would try and sell them this is why he tried to get them back but it was too late.

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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #933 on: May 27, 2015, 08:10:PM »
These are the words I was referring to

"But you don't mind that he sold them "

That is not true.

That is putting words into my mouth.



Colin wrote the book after the article presumably and I am not making "excuses"  but could he have believed the sun and then Exaggerated what JB told him? Possibly.

To balance the debate  ; I do believe Colin on most things he has no reason to lie - but to be honest he has very little to say about Jeremy in the book and perhaps on this he got a bit confused.

So the facts are only Jeremy and Brett saw the photos and what they were actually like. But someone somewhere must know - because someone took them.

The reason I said that is because you do seem to be making excuses and I haven't heard you say much to condemn the action. Although you're not alone in that. Rather than see Jeremy as Colin recalls, you've turned it around on him and suggest he might be confused?? He doesn't sound confused at all and as he was there and part of the incident. I would rather believe him - not The Sun and certainly NOT Jeremy!

Did Colin get Colin confused? Causing him to reinvent the whole incident OR was it simply that Jeremy tried to sell the pictures to The Sun?
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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #934 on: May 27, 2015, 08:10:PM »
Colin suspected he would try and sell them this is why he tried to get them back but it was too late.

And he read him right!
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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #935 on: May 27, 2015, 08:15:PM »
so why does he give all the pictures that we actully know exist back to colin why dident he try to sell those as well.

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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #936 on: May 27, 2015, 08:26:PM »
Colin suspected he would try and sell them this is why he tried to get them back but it was too late.

But the Sun never published the pictures only described what Jeremy said. Now taking into account that everyone says he is one lying SOB -surely even that was ill judged? they could have been blackening Sheilas name without evidence?

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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #937 on: May 27, 2015, 08:26:PM »
so why does he give all the pictures that we actully know exist back to colin why dident he try to sell those as well.

Because he obviously wasn't that clever enough to realise that the ones he had were worthless to a newspaper because they couldn't be published. As usual, he couldn't see the bigger picture.
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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #938 on: May 27, 2015, 08:28:PM »
But the Sun never published the pictures only described what Jeremy said. Now taking into account that everyone says he is one lying SOB -surely even that was ill judged? they could have been blackening Sheilas name without evidence?

How were they blackening her name? They didn't say the pictures existed, just that Jeremy said that did. Reading a story like that, I certainly wouldn't have thought ill of Sheila.
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« Reply #939 on: May 27, 2015, 08:30:PM »
But the Sun never published the pictures only described what Jeremy said. Now taking into account that everyone says he is one lying SOB -surely even that was ill judged? they could have been blackening Sheilas name without evidence?

How is Sheila the one who comes out looking bad? What about Jeremy??

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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #940 on: May 27, 2015, 08:30:PM »
How were they blackening her name? They didn't say the pictures existed, just that Jeremy said that did. Reading a story like that, I certainly wouldn't have thought ill of Sheila.

oh - so you are saying the Sun gave the impression that Jeremy was telling lies and the pictures did not exist?

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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #941 on: May 27, 2015, 08:34:PM »
How is Sheila the one who comes out looking bad? What about Jeremy??

Of course the article made JB look bad - but if Sheila was party to having pornographic pictures taken when she had two young sons - and leaving them around for people to find of course she would look bad as well.

But now it seems that the paper made JB out to be telling lies and the pictures may not have existed ??? confused - I am

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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #942 on: May 27, 2015, 08:34:PM »
Because he obviously wasn't that clever enough to realise that the ones he had were worthless to a newspaper because they couldn't be published. As usual, he couldn't see the bigger picture.

but he had ones that could be be published and gave back to colin he could have easly sold them and he knew that i dont belive he wouldent know that the sun couldent of printed hard core picture.

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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #943 on: May 27, 2015, 08:34:PM »
oh - so you are saying the Sun gave the impression that Jeremy was telling lies and the pictures did not exist?

Am I? I don't think I'm saying that at all! I'm saying that the article wasn't about the pictures, it was about Jeremy trying to sell them. The pictures are immaterial - Jeremy's description of them however, is not! There was no blackening of Sheila's or her reputation.
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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #944 on: May 27, 2015, 08:35:PM »
Of course the article made JB look bad - but if Sheila was party to having pornographic pictures taken when she had two young sons - and leaving them around for people to find of course she would look bad as well.

But now it seems that the paper made JB out to be telling lies and the pictures may not have existed ??? confused - I am

Not sure where you're getting that from.  :-\