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Offline Caroline

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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #435 on: May 11, 2015, 06:15:PM »
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But I wasn't suggesting that Jeremy was mentally ill.

Well, as we know April, psychopathy isn't an illness  ;) ;D ;D ;D
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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #436 on: May 11, 2015, 06:16:PM »
Well, as we know April, psychopathy isn't an illness  ;) ;D ;D ;D






I wasn't referring to Jeremy  ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #437 on: May 11, 2015, 06:22:PM »





I wasn't referring to Jeremy  ;D ;D ;D ;D

I know  ;)
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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #438 on: May 11, 2015, 06:24:PM »





I wasn't referring to Jeremy  ;D ;D ;D ;D


WEREN'T you, Lookout. Ooops ;D ;D ;D :-[

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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #439 on: May 11, 2015, 06:49:PM »





You can't " stage a suicide " with two shots for a start. Jeremy would have been well aware of that big mistake. IMO,one of those shots was delivered by another hand but the shot that killed her pretty well instantly,was self-administered.
I don't give a fig what's documented or what's been said by whom,I've got my own ideas and Jeremy isn't in the equation. It certainly wouldn't be the first time I've locked horns with a high-faluting member of the " know-it-all brigade ".

I'm talking about a team of forensic scientists,not Cook.  I have an acquaintance who works in forensic sciences and they work separately from the police,also,they are first on the scene kitted out in white from top to bottom to avoid contamination of any sort.

I don't see how a phone-call or not puts Jeremy in the frame. It depends on how you look at it. Either way,it shouldn't make a scrap of difference as to whether he's telling the truth or not.It's whatever you make of it.

You can't stage a suicide with two shots.

Is that because Sheila could not shoot herself twice ?
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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #440 on: May 11, 2015, 07:41:PM »


Well, I'm going to hold my hands up and admit that I found it very hard to accept that a good looking guy, with a similar upbringing and education to my own, ALSO adopted to boot, could POSSIBLY massacre his family. I doubt that I'm the only one.

I was actually meaning that his looks education and general confident demeanour would go against him before and during the trial but I see what you mean.

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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #441 on: May 11, 2015, 07:52:PM »
You can't stage a suicide with two shots.

Is that because Sheila could not shoot herself twice ?

As you are well aware two shot suicides are not uncommon - especially with an automatic weapon . that is why it was accepted as suicide from the beginning - it is well documented .

But it is doubtful that Jeremy would have been aware of that - hence why I think it unlikely he would stand next to the police and appear to be calm.

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Offline Caroline

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« Reply #443 on: May 11, 2015, 08:39:PM »
As you are well aware two shot suicides are not uncommon - especially with an automatic weapon . that is why it was accepted as suicide from the beginning - it is well documented .

But it is doubtful that Jeremy would have been aware of that - hence why I think it unlikely he would stand next to the police and appear to be calm.

Without sounding like a broken record, he could if he were a psychopath. But there is no reason why two shots to Sheila would necessarily make then suspicious of Jeremy.
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Offline David1819

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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #444 on: May 11, 2015, 11:30:PM »
You can't stage a suicide with two shots.

Is that because Sheila could not shoot herself twice ?

Putting the Bamber case aside, You can commit suicide with multiple gunshots even to the head

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_gunshot_suicide

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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #445 on: May 12, 2015, 06:59:AM »
Putting the Bamber case aside, You can commit suicide with multiple gunshots even to the head

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_gunshot_suicide

I was repeating what Lookout was saying.

If he shot her twice and decided not to stage the scene as murder/suicide, where would he leave the rifle ?

Once the police decided there was no random burglar/psychopath involved Jeremy would be the only suspect. Thirty years later he would look stupid if still claiming it was a burglar/psychopath,  and would not have the option of still insinuating Sheila.
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Offline Jan

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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #446 on: May 13, 2015, 09:35:PM »
I was repeating what Lookout was saying.

If he shot her twice and decided not to stage the scene as murder/suicide, where would he leave the rifle ?

Once the police decided there was no random burglar/psychopath involved Jeremy would be the only suspect. Thirty years later he would look stupid if still claiming it was a burglar/psychopath,  and would not have the option of still insinuating Sheila.

If Sheila had not been medically ill and admitted she was worried she would harm her children and had admitted she thought the CIA were after her and that she had suicidal thoughts - I wonder what he would have "set up" instead?

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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #447 on: May 13, 2015, 09:45:PM »
If Sheila had not been medically ill and admitted she was worried she would harm her children and had admitted she thought the CIA were after her and that she had suicidal thoughts - I wonder what he would have "set up" instead?

Nothing. Sheila'????s illness gave him the opportunity.
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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #448 on: May 13, 2015, 09:49:PM »
Nothing. Sheila'????s illness gave him the opportunity.

If he was greedy enough to risk 5 life sentences for money then surely he would be ingenious to think of something else?

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« Reply #449 on: May 13, 2015, 09:52:PM »
If he was greedy enough to risk 5 life sentences for money then surely he would be ingenious to think of something else?

Well he ruled out burning down WHF.

Julie never said he considered the random stranger/burglar option. Both are crazy.

He had one option. And the opportunity.
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