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Offline Caroline

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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #465 on: May 13, 2015, 10:24:PM »
Quote from: Alias on May 13, 2015, 10:17:PM
Jeremy doesn´t look good - he did eons ago, but hello!
Caroline, how can you even say such a thing, it is absurd? Even more so a former supporter, LOL!

It's easy because as I have already pointed out, it's a GENERALISATION which doesn't mean that EVERYONE is influenced by his looks. Hmmmm, the word 'absurd' - isn't that a little like 'ridiculous'?  ;)
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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #466 on: May 13, 2015, 10:26:PM »
Quote from: Caroline on May 13, 2015, 10:20:PM
No one said anything outrageously dreadful about Ted Bundy (in fact quite the opposite) until after he was caught.

It's not really the bad things people said about Jeremy that stand out, it's the lack of good things from people who knew him before the murders. There are VERY few who seem to have supported him before and after the trial.

I think April is talking about how people who knew (probably superficially) Jeremy are talking about him now, not before the murders.
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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #467 on: May 13, 2015, 10:27:PM »
Quote from: Caroline on May 13, 2015, 10:24:PM
It's easy because as I have already pointed out, it's a GENERALISATION which doesn't mean that EVERYONE is influenced by his looks. Hmmmm, the word 'absurd' - isn't that a little like 'ridiculous'?  ;)

It is polite - ridiculous is rude.  ;)
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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #468 on: May 13, 2015, 10:30:PM »
Quote from: Alias on May 13, 2015, 10:23:PM
No one stages a two shot murder as suicide. Impossible. Never heard of any other such case.

What would you suggest he did after the two shots were fired? You obviously think that after two shots he would realise that police would suspect murder. Given that he was the only member of the family who had a motive - he'd be the first suspect. If he went home and did nothing, he couldn't be sure they wouldn't work it out. He had no choice but to go ahead with the call, or maybe that's when he decided he needed the call as an alibi. Either way, he needed to put himself in another location and make the police believe that it all kicked off when he wasn't there.
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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #469 on: May 13, 2015, 10:31:PM »
Quote from: Alias on May 13, 2015, 10:27:PM
It is polite - ridiculous is rude.  ;)

OK, I will remember that  ;)
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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #470 on: May 13, 2015, 10:34:PM »
Quote from: Alias on May 13, 2015, 10:26:PM
I think April is talking about how people who knew (probably superficially) Jeremy are talking about him now, not before the murders.

Either way, he doesn't see to have had many friends of his own and even fewer have stood by him.
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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #471 on: May 13, 2015, 10:36:PM »
Quote from: Caroline on May 13, 2015, 10:34:PM
Either way, he doesn't see to have had many friends of his own and even fewer have stood by him.






At least he wasn't a loner.
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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #472 on: May 13, 2015, 10:38:PM »
Quote from: Caroline on May 13, 2015, 10:30:PM
What would you suggest he did after the two shots were fired? You obviously think that after two shots he would realise that police would suspect murder. Given that he was the only member of the family who had a motive - he'd be the first suspect. If he went home and did nothing, he couldn't be sure they wouldn't work it out. He had no choice but to go ahead with the call, or maybe that's when he decided he needed the call as an alibi. Either way, he needed to put himself in another location and make the police believe that it all kicked off when he wasn't there.

Not that I would suggest anything; but if you have some knowledge of different murder cases, which I assume you do, you have to admit that a common thing for killers to do, is stage break ins and burglaries. Mostly they do a lousy job of it, but it is very common.
As I said, this is the only case I have heard of where the killer stages a two shot murder as suicide. I would think that would be the LAST thing you´d do!
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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #473 on: May 13, 2015, 10:40:PM »
Quote from: Caroline on May 13, 2015, 10:34:PM
Either way, he doesn't see to have had many friends of his own and even fewer have stood by him.


I wouldn´t know about that. I don´t know which people support, visit  or otherwise have contact with Jeremy.
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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #474 on: May 13, 2015, 10:42:PM »
I think that as well,Alias. No way,as that first shot would have eventually killed her anyway,so why would anyone fire a second ?
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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #475 on: May 13, 2015, 10:45:PM »
Quote from: Alias on May 13, 2015, 10:38:PM
Not that I would suggest anything; but if you have some knowledge of different murder cases, which I assume you do, you have to admit that a common thing for killers to do, is stage break ins and burglaries. Mostly they do a lousy job of it, but it is very common.
As I said, this is the only case I have heard of where the killer stages a two shot murder as suicide. I would think that would be the LAST thing you´d do!

The last thing I would do is kill my family, BUT, if I was to put myself in his shoes, I would certainly try and think of a way to throw the police off my scent. The call was a good idea and bad idea but it did almost work.
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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #476 on: May 13, 2015, 10:47:PM »
Quote from: Caroline on May 13, 2015, 10:45:PM
The last thing I would do is kill my family, BUT, if I was to put myself in his shoes, I would certainly try and think of a way to throw the police off my scent. The call was a good idea and bad idea but it did almost work.

And to make sure the police arrive before you do  ::)
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Offline Caroline

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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #477 on: May 13, 2015, 10:47:PM »
Quote from: lookout on May 13, 2015, 10:42:PM
I think that as well,Alias. No way,as that first shot would have eventually killed her anyway,so why would anyone fire a second ?

How would he know that?
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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #478 on: May 13, 2015, 10:48:PM »
Quote from: david1819 on May 13, 2015, 10:47:PM
And to make sure the police arrive before you do  ::)

Exactly.
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Offline Alias

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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #479 on: May 13, 2015, 10:48:PM »
Quote from: Caroline on May 13, 2015, 10:45:PM
The last thing I would do is kill my family, BUT, if I was to put myself in his shoes, I would certainly try and think of a way to throw the police off my scent. The call was a good idea and bad idea but it did almost work.

Of course it didn´t work - he painted himself into a corner if he really made up that call! How stupid can a man be?
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