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Re: A Disturbing Allegation!
« Reply #45 on: May 06, 2015, 04:30:PM »
Mainly used for cross-matching in case a transfusion is needed.
I can only receive blood from someone who is O the same as me.Blood types,A,B,AB and O can receive my blood.

Patti can receive blood from A and O. D refers to an antigen in your blood ( which isn't present in mine ) ;D

 

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Re: A Disturbing Allegation!
« Reply #46 on: May 06, 2015, 04:33:PM »
My blood type is referred to as being the universal one--------the giver of the majority,but on the other hand,can only receive from my own type and not others.

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Re: A Disturbing Allegation!
« Reply #47 on: May 06, 2015, 04:34:PM »
I am blood group A.  D-positive
My father was A  ?-Positive
My mother was RH Negative

I shall never fathom this grouping malarkey....not even sure what D-positive is.

Positive or negative has to do with RH (Rhesus) factor.  The main RH antigen that causes problems with respect to blood transfusions is the D antigen.  So A positive means group A blood with the D antigen and A negative means without the D antigen.  It is assumed the D antigen is being discussed unless otherwise stated so it normally is not stated. 

Someone actually bothered to state it fully with respect to you and to denote it means you have the D antigen.

There are other antigens but they are not as critical when it comes to transfusions so are not mentioned except in very detailed blood testing.

Your father had the D antigen like you while your mother was D negative.

If they don't know your blood type they give you O negative because it has the least chance of causing problems, O is the universal donor and even if you are RH positive it doesn't cause harm to give blood lacking it usually.






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Re: A Disturbing Allegation!
« Reply #48 on: May 06, 2015, 04:41:PM »
My blood type is referred to as being the universal one--------the giver of the majority,but on the other hand,can only receive from my own type and not others.

Hello lookout
I'm just plain good old O positive as common as muck ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: A Disturbing Allegation!
« Reply #49 on: May 06, 2015, 04:50:PM »
Jeremy's defenders have long made allegations without any basis for them.  This is one of them.  The suggestion that because they share the same blood type as Nevill this means they most likely are Nevill's children is bizarre. 


If you think this is crazy look at the theory I found on the internet yesterday, I left in the off topic section under the title 'King Jeremy' Its so crazy it does not have a place in the case discussion buts its funny non the less. Talk about going down the rabbit hole

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Re: A Disturbing Allegation!
« Reply #50 on: May 06, 2015, 04:56:PM »
Hello lookout
I'm just plain good old O positive as common as muck ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D





I know,Susan,same as me.  ;D ;D ;D ;D Never mind.

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Re: A Disturbing Allegation!
« Reply #51 on: May 06, 2015, 04:57:PM »




I know,Susan,same as me.  ;D ;D ;D ;D Never mind.




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Re: A Disturbing Allegation!
« Reply #52 on: May 06, 2015, 05:03:PM »
i dont belive its true but i would be very intrested to find out where this roumour came from.
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Re: A Disturbing Allegation!
« Reply #53 on: May 06, 2015, 05:14:PM »
 Me too nugs. Another one who's fled the country probably in case of a libel action,or worse.

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Re: A Disturbing Allegation!
« Reply #54 on: May 06, 2015, 05:15:PM »
If you think this is crazy look at the theory I found on the internet yesterday, I left in the off topic section under the title 'King Jeremy' Its so crazy it does not have a place in the case discussion buts its funny non the less. Talk about going down the rabbit hole

That's just crackpot nonsense. The point here is that 90 plus percent of the male population could be the father of the twins if we just go by blood type. It is rather stupid to claim that because they shared the same blood type it means he most likely is their father. Only those with the AB blood type can be scientifically ruled out as being their father- what percentage of males has AB blood in the UK 3-4%?  I hate science it was the subject I liked least in school and even I remember this crap from grammar school. This doesn't instill much confidence in their scientific abilities.



 

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Re: A Disturbing Allegation!
« Reply #55 on: May 06, 2015, 05:20:PM »
i dont belive its true but i would be very intrested to find out where this roumour came from.

The basis is provided in the document it asserts that because they shared the same blood type as Nevill it means they likely are his sons.  First of all almost half the population of the UK has O blood so by their own criteria of the father needing to have the same blood type that means nearly half the male population could be their father.  But worse, their father could have had A or B blood not just O.  The only blood type their father could not have is AB. So those males with AB blood are ruled out their father could be everyone left so 96-97% of the male population could be their father. 

They grossly overestimated the likelihood of Nevill being the father based simply on blood type.

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Re: A Disturbing Allegation!
« Reply #56 on: May 06, 2015, 05:26:PM »
no i mean who it came from

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« Reply #57 on: May 06, 2015, 05:47:PM »
no i mean who it came from

James Stevenson and Peter Wright. Both signed it so either both agreed with the statement or one wrote it and the other was negligent in signing without reading very carefully.
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Re: A Disturbing Allegation!
« Reply #58 on: May 06, 2015, 08:03:PM »
James Stevenson and Peter Wright. Both signed it so either both agreed with the statement or one wrote it and the other was negligent in signing without reading very carefully.

I have read somewhere before DNA they hade methods to compare blood to determine paternity with 80% accuracy but I assume they would have said they conducted such a test. I doubt they would make such a bizarre claim without at least hearing the accusations from people that may have been familiar with the families and known the bambers somewhat.

According to Mike, Jeremy sais he would not be surprised if the allegations turned out to be true as there where farming families having incestial children (apparently)

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Re: A Disturbing Allegation!
« Reply #59 on: May 06, 2015, 08:10:PM »
I have read somewhere before DNA they hade methods to compare blood to determine paternity with 80% accuracy but I assume they would have said they conducted such a test. I doubt they would make such a bizarre claim without at least hearing the accusations from people that may have been familiar with the families and known the bambers somewhat.

According to Mike Jeremy sais he would not be surprised if the allegations turned out to be true as there where farming families having incestial children (apparently)


Of course it's not true! It's simply another example of desperate people trying to deflect from Bambers guilt.
Few people have the imagination for reality