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Re: Facts
« Reply #135 on: May 14, 2015, 02:57:PM »
That's you opinion - I don't think he looks scared at all, not in any of them. You have to question why no one was prepared to support him. He had no real friends, most of them were Julie's friends and even they were prepared to testify that he had mentioned hating his family.

What did he have to be smug about? He thought he would get away with it.

I really cannot say any more if you can´t see he looks scared and sad in the top photo I posted. How would you describe that expression?

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« Reply #136 on: May 14, 2015, 02:57:PM »
I'm not trying to prove anything and I can see he may look smug but it is a matter of opinion, I think. :-\

I didn't suggest you were. You originally stated that 'it didn't prove anything' and I said that I didn't say it did. Of course it's an opinion which is why I said 'he looks smug IMO'.
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« Reply #137 on: May 14, 2015, 02:58:PM »
I really cannot say any more if you can´t see he looks scared and sad in the top photo I posted. How would you describe that expression?

Menacing.
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« Reply #138 on: May 14, 2015, 02:59:PM »
How does he look here?:



Or here?:


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Re: Facts
« Reply #139 on: May 14, 2015, 03:01:PM »
How does he look here?:



Or here?:



He looks like someone who has just been found out - I certainly don't see 'fear'.
« Last Edit: May 14, 2015, 03:02:PM by Caroline »
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« Reply #140 on: May 14, 2015, 03:01:PM »
Menacing.

Then we see things extremely differently!

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« Reply #141 on: May 14, 2015, 03:03:PM »
Then we see things extremely differently!

I think that might be an understatement  ;D ;)
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« Reply #142 on: May 14, 2015, 03:07:PM »
Taken at inopportune moments.Who's to say how he was feeling or what he was thinking ? Afterall,this is what the press are good at. They do it to the Royals and celebrities alike just to cobble up a story for peoples imaginations. The more the " bad feeling " you have,the better the media like it !!

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« Reply #143 on: May 14, 2015, 03:11:PM »
I think that might be an understatement  ;D ;)

Try this: http://greatergood.berkeley.edu/ei_quiz/12  ;) (doesn´t work with Firefox).

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« Reply #144 on: May 14, 2015, 03:48:PM »
Months before the murders,Jeremy and AE had had a blazing row over Vaulty Manor,which was owned by the Speakmans,which the Eatons had wanted to buy. Jeremy,however,put paid to that thought by saying that his father intended to buy the place himself.
This was when AE stormed into a rage and tore the wallpaper in the toilet at WHF.

Would Jeremy have thrown all that away ? Of course he wouldn't. Neville's intention would have created the fireworks which Jeremy would have delighted in seeing,plus the extra revenue which that would have collated.

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« Reply #145 on: May 14, 2015, 03:50:PM »
Months before the murders,Jeremy and AE had had a blazing row over Vaulty Manor,which was owned by the Speakmans,which the Eatons had wanted to buy. Jeremy,however,put paid to that thought by saying that his father intended to buy the place himself.
This was when AE stormed into a rage and tore the wallpaper in the toilet at WHF.

Would Jeremy have thrown all that away ? Of course he wouldn't. Neville's intention would have created the fireworks which Jeremy would have delighted in seeing,plus the extra revenue which that would have collated.






Did the jury know this little gem ? There was a Hell of a lot the jury weren't privy to. Fair trial ?? I don't think so.

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« Reply #146 on: May 14, 2015, 03:52:PM »
Taken at inopportune moments.Who's to say how he was feeling or what he was thinking ? Afterall,this is what the press are good at. They do it to the Royals and celebrities alike just to cobble up a story for peoples imaginations. The more the " bad feeling " you have,the better the media like it !!

But you have just said what you thought he was thinking and feeling in Alias's poll.
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« Reply #147 on: May 14, 2015, 03:55:PM »
But you have just said what you thought he was thinking and feeling in Alias's poll.






Yes ? That's what I said and meant,why ?

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Re: Facts
« Reply #148 on: May 14, 2015, 03:57:PM »
The question asked how he would be feeling,so I answered.

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Re: Facts
« Reply #149 on: May 18, 2015, 01:21:PM »
False claims,statements and witnesses. Collusion began as soon as the investigation went from murder/suicide to murder. Blame lays purely in the hands of EP who instigated those concerned to do their damndest in securing a conviction by painting the blackest picture of Jeremy that they could muster. Jeremy was then left to run the gauntlet of police on one side and the extended relatives on the other and without familial support for himself,he became easy meat to blame for the crime.

Read the news on Glenn Ford,an African/American who'd been on Death Row for 30 years after having been found guilty by an all-white jury. The girlfriend of one of the robbers had falsely claimed that it was Ford who'd murdered the jeweller,and her claim got him the " death sentence "( nearly )
He was released last year when his conviction was overturned.
The guy had kept up his plea of innocence for 30 years even after a number of failed appeals.
Why had he been charged with the murder in the first place ? Because whoever fired the gun was left-handed.Ford was left-handed,but so was the original suspect,a friend of the girlfriend who'd blamed Ford in the first place.