Facts

[Caroline]

I read long ago in some unfinished online book (don´t remember the author, perhaps someone else has a better memory), that Julie did receive compensation for her 32 sessions with the EP. I think everyone has this right - wages lost because of the time spent with police during an investigation. I think you don´t get that money automatically, but have to apply for it. It was claimed that Julie did.

I've read a lot of things online, most tend not to be true, however, if she did receive such payment (as I've never heard of anyone getting such), it's called 'expenses' not compensation.

[Alias]

I've read a lot of things online, most tend not to be true, however, if she did receive such payment (as I've never heard of anyone getting such), it's called 'expenses' not compensation.

I apologize for the lack of knowledge of the finer nuances of technical terms in English.

Anyway, I am actually not slating Julie for this, perhaps that money was a neccessity for her to exist, she was not rich and spent many, many hours with the EP.

[Caroline]

I apologize for the lack of knowledge of the finer nuances of technical terms in English.

Anyway, I am actually not slating Julie for this, perhaps that money was a neccessity for her to exist, she was not rich and spent many, many hours with the EP.

Lookout was actually talking about the NOTW deal and we don't know that she was paid expenses.

I wasn't knocking your English, simply pointing out there is a difference. Your English is excellent.

[Jane]

I read long ago in some unfinished online book (don´t remember the author, perhaps someone else has a better memory), that Julie did receive compensation for her 32 sessions with the EP. I think everyone has this right - wages lost because of the time spent with police during an investigation. I think you don´t get that money automatically, but have to apply for it. It was claimed that Julie did.

Hmm, I believe I read that Julie claimed expenses. This is, apparently, available to all, but few take advantage.

[Alias]

Lookout was actually talking about the NOTW deal and we don't know that she was paid expenses.

I wasn't knocking your English, simply pointing out there is a difference. Your English is excellent.

I didn´t know the difference, so my English is not that excellent. I am glad you clarified it for me - honestly.

[Caroline]

I didn´t know the difference, so my English is not that excellent. I am glad you clarified it for me - honestly.

The difference (and I'm just clarifying it) is that compensation is a payment because you have been wronged in some way (either accidentally or deliberately) and expenses are payments to reimburse you for things like travel and loss of wages etc.

[Alias]

The difference (and I'm just clarifying it) is that compensation is a payment because you have been wronged in some way (either accidentally or deliberately) and expenses are payments to reimburse you for things like travel and loss of wages etc.

Yes, I got that.

[Patti]

To be honest I can't see how any of us can speculate what type of person Jeremy was, for none of us knew him before the murders or directly after.  All we can go on is hearsay or village gossip. 

When Egap/Holly went to visit and had drinks with the locals she was amazed to find out that not many people could remember the incident and those that did told her they thought he was innocent.

Yes, he has been portrayed as a bad boy in the press, but I wonder how much of that was true and how much was sensationalized. 

Its the same with the photo's the press used, in my opinion they looked at all of them and picked out the most likely one that made him look like a killer.

Caroline posted some glared photo's of Jeremy last week.  Having watched the video that Adam posted, he looked rather glum when he sat down and sad...The press were up to the van window and none of us know what they were shouting to him, so he glanced round and smiled at them....It must be never wrecking to be followed and photographed...and camera's half way up your nose.  There are many softer photographs of Jeremy that did make the front page....Just saying...

[Caroline]

To be honest I can't see how any of us can speculate what type of person Jeremy was, for none of us knew him before the murders or directly after.  All we can go on is hearsay or village gossip. 

When Egap/Holly went to visit and had drinks with the locals she was amazed to find out that not many people could remember the incident and those that did told her they thought he was innocent.

Yes, he has been portrayed as a bad boy in the press, but I wonder how much of that was true and how much was sensationalized. 

Its the same with the photo's the press used, in my opinion they looked at all of them and picked out the most likely one that made him look like a killer.

Caroline posted some glared photo's of Jeremy last week.  Having watched the video that Adam posted, he looked rather glum when he sat down and sad...The press were up to the van window and none of us know what they were shouting to him, so he glanced round and smiled at them....It must be never wrecking to be followed and photographed...and camera's half way up your nose.  There are many softer photographs of Jeremy that did make the front page....Just saying...

Think about if you were convicted of a similar crime and you were innocent? I think you would have manner of friends and family backing you up and fighting your corner. Jeremy had VERY FEW people from his past that went that far (if any). It's certainly a measure and reflection of you, when people are prepared to stand up and be counted in your defence. The smile Jeremy gave to the reporter, was more smug imo, than friendly.

[maggie]

Think about if you were convicted of a similar crime and you were innocent? I think you would have manner of friends and family backing you up and fighting your corner. Jeremy had VERY FEW people from his past that went that far (if any). It's certainly a measure and reflection of you, when people are prepared to stand up and be counted in your defence. The smile Jeremy gave to the reporter, was more smug imo, than friendly.

I do think the photo of Jeremy smiling could have been a lucky shot, the press take loads of photos and then search through for the best one to make their point and in this case they found one which showed him looking bit weird.  The fact is it can be a lucky shot, the way the light falls, all kinds of reasons why they were able to capture that photo.  It doesn't prove anything imo.

[Caroline]

I do think the photo of Jeremy smiling could have been a lucky shot, the press take loads of photos and then search through for the best one to make their point and in this case they found one which showed him looking bit weird.  The fact is it can be a lucky shot, the way the light falls, all kinds of reasons why they were able to capture that photo.  It doesn't prove anything imo.

The camera was on him from when he got into the back seat, it's video not a single shot caught out of context. The video is there for everyone to view it themselves.  I didn't say it 'proved' anything, I said he looked 'smug' and to me he does.

[Alias]

Jeremy didn´t have any family that supported him, biological or non-biological, no one. That made him very vulnerable.
Not sure about friends, I think there were some, but none influential and in any case, family counts more.

Here are two quite conflicting images of Jeremy in about the same situation. Take a look in the photo thread, most pictures show a sad and scared young man, very few a smug one. Besides, what did he have to be smug about - a defiant defence mechanism when flaunting his non-convincing smile that never reached the eyes.

[maggie]

The camera was on him from when he got into the back seat, it's video not a single shot caught out of context. The video is there for everyone to view it themselves.  I didn't say it 'proved' anything, I said he looked 'smug' and to me he does.

I'm not trying to prove anything and I can see he may look smug but it is a matter of opinion, I think.

[Caroline]

Jeremy didn´t have any family that supported him, biological or non-biological, no one. That made him very vulnerable.
Not sure about friends, I think there were some, but none influential and in any case, family counts more.

Here are two quite conflicting images of Jeremy in about the same situation. Take a look in the photo thread, most pictures show a sad and scared young man, very few a smug one. Besides, what did he have to be smug about - a defiant defence mechanism when flaunting his non-convincing smile that never reached the eyes.

That's you opinion - I don't think he looks scared at all, not in any of them. You have to question why no one was prepared to support him. He had no real friends, most of them were Julie's friends and even they were prepared to testify that he had mentioned hating his family.

What did he have to be smug about? He thought he would get away with it. 

[Alias]

Sorry for going slightly off topic, but the other day when I was adding photos of Sheila to the photo thread, I noticed how different she looked in all the photos. Almost like a different person in each and every picture.
Now, looking through the photos of Jeremy, the same can be said of him. He looks extremely different from photo to photo.

Odd, since they were not biologically related.