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[Adam]

So in your scenario Sheila could have shot herself when the police were outside and no one woud have heard her?

The phone line was only open in the kitchen so if the door was closed that argument does not stack up either

Well the judge said everyone was dead prior to 3.48am. As no shots were heard. Either on the open line, or from outside. So a shot from Sheila would be heard. Dozens of people were listening out for noises.

However Bamber spending around 15 seconds shooting 10/11 bullets into June and Neville, with Sheila asleep, and two closed doors and 30 yards in front of her, is unlikely to wake her.

[David1819]

So in your scenario Sheila could have shot herself when the police were outside and no one woud have heard her?

The phone line was only open in the kitchen so if the door was closed that argument does not stack up either

Yes Adam has previously stated that police outside would have heard gun shots had shelia killed herself.

A .22 rifle will sounds like a loud clap. So make up your own minds. I doubt anyone slept though it and I believe the twins where first to go. I can't see shelia sleeping through not only the gun shots but also there would be screaming from June as she didn't die instantly and crawled to the doorway.

[Adam]

Yes Adam has previously stated that police outside would have heard gun shots had shelia killed herself.

A .22 rifle will sounds like a loud clap. So make up your own minds. I doubt anyone slept though it and I believe the twins where first to go. I can't see shelia sleeping through not only the gun shots but also there would be screaming from June as she didn't die instantly and crawled to the doorway.

I don't recall saying that. But the judge said a shot would be heard by the police outside. As well as the phone line. Sheila could only shoot herself without the silencer.

Bamber shot June and Neville with the silencer. The twins didn't wake.

If Sheila woke, she woke. I have always said she may have woken. It doesn't change who committed the massacre.

[maggie]

An old man already shot 4 times will not be able to put up much of fight

Any man shot in the face would be stunned and at a huge dissadvantage in any situation.

[lookout]

Any man shot in the face would be stunned and at a huge dissadvantage in any situation.

Especially against a woman opponent.

[Adam]

Why do supporters think Sheila kept herself alive for several hours after killing everyone else ?

I asked this question in a thread. The only answer I got was that her actions would be erratic due to her illness.

Erratic ? You can say that again. Beating an already dead Neville.

[Steve_uk]

Yes Adam has previously stated that police outside would have heard gun shots had shelia killed herself.

A .22 rifle will sounds like a loud clap. So make up your own minds. I doubt anyone slept though it and I believe the twins where first to go. I can't see shelia sleeping through not only the gun shots but also there would be screaming from June as she didn't die instantly and crawled to the doorway.

I wonder if we'll ever find out whether June cried out or not. Wasn't she shot in the neck from close range,so I would expect gurgling at most. Sheila was used to lying in bed and with the large Georgian farmhouse having thick walls it's quite possible she heard nothing.

[Adam]

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6753.msg311209.html#msg311209

[lookout]

Why do supporters think Sheila kept herself alive for several hours after killing everyone else ?

I asked this question in a thread. The only answer I got was that her actions would be erratic due to her illness.

Erratic ? You can say that again. Beating an already dead Neville.

Although June also was peppered in bullets,she wasn't exactly lying in a huge pool of blood which says that she too had many shots after she was dead too. The shooting was frenzied.

[Adam]

Obviously if supporters accept the evidence that everyone was dead prior to 3.48am, that supports Bamber being the killer. As Sheila couldn't have achieved the massacre between 3.26am - 3.48am.

So supporters argue Sheila was alive while the police were outside. Although cannot give a reason why she would do this and have no evidence to support this happening.