New video:

[Adam]

why?

Colin says in his book the family were spreading rumours that Jeremy was going round dressed as a woman. unsubstantiated of course .

New romantic  gear and music was very popular. People used to worry about mods and rockers as well. Its a generational thing.

Jan you must stop supporting Jeremy. You know he is guilty and cannot explain how Sheila committed the massacre.

[Alias]

Jan you must stop supporting Jeremy. You know he is guilty and cannot explain how Sheila committed the massacre.

Adam, if I read this one more time, I will scream! ANNOYING!

[David1819]

"Other men were obsessed by what they perceived to be the unfairness of their sentence and proclaimed their innocence. Most men denied the seriousness of their offences, according to the official sources of information. A sub-group of these men spent long periods writing to lawyers, outside organisations, and pressure groups. Their campaigns frequently brought them into conflict with the prison authorities."

How often is this? This Must really harm people that really do protest their innocence 

[lookout]

The late Susan May,who was imprisoned ( innocent ) for allegedly murdering her aunt, never admitted her guilt,nor did she show any remorse,because she was no killer/psychopath-----------just an innocent woman who was wrongly convicted !!
The fight for her freedom is still ongoing.

Quote," When the CCRC began work in 1997,there were major cases crying out for redress---for example those of Eddie Gilfoyle,Jeremy Bamber and Susan May.In its early years,the CCRC referred all three; but the fact is that today,all three remain un-rectified miscarriages of justice.unquote "

As stated by Bob Woffinden-Dec 17th 2014.


This indicates--to a growing number of observers--that the system we have for correcting perceived mistakes in the system is no longer working.

[lookout]

Like BW stated,this could be the beginning of the end for the CCRC.

Let's hope Jeremy gets his submission in before the end !

[Jan]

Jan you must stop supporting Jeremy. You know he is guilty and cannot explain how Sheila committed the massacre.

Adam I have told you how I think it happened - You tell me how JB managed to get Sheila to lie down and pretend she was  complicit with being shot without even putting her hands up?

Guess what you can say what you want because we were not there . So we are making up a scenario.

At least I look at both sides - you are just on some kind of mission and funnily enough the more times you say what you do - the more you convince me my theories are right. funny that .

[Steve_uk]

Why don't you all write and ask him to take a brain scan ( PET scan) in order to detect any abnormality,as it WILL show activity of neurons within the brain------------FACT.

Didn't he refuse a scan,or is this just another myth? The video here is maybe worthy of its own thread,but neuroscientist Professor James Fallon tells us some people do have psychopathic traits,the difference being they can control that urge. https://youtu.be/0Bn-TJHnNYQ

[Stephanie]

How often is this? This Must really harm people that really do protest their innocence 

I would suggest it is much higher than many of us perceive. There aren't many high profile MOJ cases that I believe are actual MOJ's.

[Steve_uk]

Didn't he refuse a scan,or is this just another myth? The video here is maybe worthy of its own thread,but neuroscientist Professor James Fallon tells us some people do have psychopathic traits,the difference being they can control that urge. https://youtu.be/0Bn-TJHnNYQ

I also note the preparation involved in the perpetration of the crime,and also like Julie some people must have known beforehand.

[lookout]

Didn't he refuse a scan,or is this just another myth? The video here is maybe worthy of its own thread,but neuroscientist Professor James Fallon tells us some people do have psychopathic traits,the difference being they can control that urge. https://youtu.be/0Bn-TJHnNYQ

I haven't read anything about a refusal,or even a scan come to that. There is such a thing as a non-lethal psychopath,which would refer to a nagging wife,a bullying work manager,and really a reference to those who can't control their temper.

[Jan]

You seems to be looking at one behaviour at a time as opposed to looking at the overall picture.

No I am not - there are varying reports about his character - some of them are obviously exaggerated on purpose for affect. It is very easy in retrospect to pick out the bad bits and ignore the good. I have never claimed he was a saint. I don't know him , have never met him . But there seem to be a lot of experts on here willing to attribute a medical illness to him which I have never seen officially diagnosed - so what should I assume from that?

[Alias]

I haven't read anything about a refusal,or even a scan come to that. There is such a thing as a non-lethal psychopath,which would refer to a nagging wife,a bullying work manager,and really a reference to those who can't control their temper.

Just read in passing that we actually need what we call psychopaths in our societies. We need people who can take risks, many leaders are "psychopaths". They generate jobs - it isn´t all negative. Have to read the article properly - but I am not that interested in psychopathy! 

[Jan]

There are people who have lived with people with Aspergers all their lives and not even realised it. It happens.

[Adam]

Adam I have told you how I think it happened - You tell me how JB managed to get Sheila to lie down and pretend she was  complicit with being shot without even putting her hands up?

Guess what you can say what you want because we were not there . So we are making up a scenario.

At least I look at both sides - you are just on some kind of mission and funnily enough the more times you say what you do - the more you convince me my theories are right. funny that .

I will call you a liar but apologise when you submit the post which says point by point how Sheila did it.

Threads have been created on how Sheila was shot.

[lookout]

Just read in passing that we actually need what we call psychopaths in our societies. We need people who can take risks, many leaders are "psychopaths". They generate jobs - it isn´t all negative. Have to read the article properly - but I am not that interested in psychopathy! 

Another word for them is bad-tempered b'stards.   Leaders. People with drive.