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[Jan]

He was working on the farm in his 20's. A bit old to dressing up in new romantic gear.

why?

Colin says in his book the family were spreading rumours that Jeremy was going round dressed as a woman. unsubstantiated of course .

New romantic  gear and music was very popular. People used to worry about mods and rockers as well. Its a generational thing.

[Stephanie]

"Other men were obsessed by what they perceived to be the unfairness of their sentence and proclaimed their innocence. Most men denied the seriousness of their offences, according to the official sources of information. A sub-group of these men spent long periods writing to lawyers, outside organisations, and pressure groups. Their campaigns frequently brought them into conflict with the prison authorities."

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=LSiBsdxcGigC&pg=PA444&lpg=PA444&dq=miscarriages+of+justice+and+psychopathy&source=bl&ots=nnT3vk9i6V&sig=7PyhSU8EhFWasS_ymjsqOGvGDbw&hl=en&sa=X&ei=pKsvVZjFBoKhPdaKgeAC&ved=0CCsQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=miscarriages%20of%20justice%20and%20psychopathy&f=false

[lookout]

I used to see quite a few guys back in the 80's dressed and made-up to look like Adam Ant. As I said,it was a phase at the time and I see nothing sinister attached to it at all.

[lookout]

What about the Mohican haircuts ? Coloured hair on the men as well as the women. Jeremy could only manage black,a shade darker than he normally was,so a chicken in that respect. And that was suspicious.

[SaraT]

Show me photos of people who wore what JB wore back then.

Also, I am not considering his sexual promiscuity alone, he has a wealth of other traits which suggest psychopathy. By all means explain them away as 'just fashionable at the time" or any other excuses you wish to make for his behaviours but I see a manipulative man who is guilty.

Again I'm not explaining anything away, it was the fashion at the time and has nothing to do with supposed psychopathy. Plus do you really need photographic evidence that people dressed up in new romantic gear???its like asking for proof that people once wore flares or miniskirts

[Stephanie]

What about the Mohican haircuts ? Coloured hair on the men as well as the women. Jeremy could only manage black,a shade darker than he normally was,so a chicken in that respect. And that was suspicious.

I've seen JB referred to as a 'chicken' and a 'coward.' We can't understand psychopaths because we evaluate them through the lens of our own motivations, values and emotions. This is a fundamental mistake.

Psychopaths aren't cowards, they are just hungry. Like a lion is to their prey.

[Jan]

Again I'm not explaining anything away, it was the fashion at the time and has nothing to do with supposed psychopathy. Plus do you really need photographic evidence that people dressed up in new romantic gear???its like asking for proof that people once wore flares or miniskirts

I am not getting the point either ? He dyed his hair and wore fashionable clothes? Lots of people did that and do that now ?

[Jan]

I've seen JB referred to as a 'chicken' and a 'coward.' We can't understand psychopaths because we evaluate them through the lens of our own motivations, values and emotions. This is a fundamental mistake.

Psychopaths aren't cowards, they are just hungry. Like a lion is to their prey.

So whose descriptions are you willing to believe and accept?

And whose will you ignore?

The house keeper for example said the whole family got on and she never saw an argument. Colin expresses the problems between Sheila and her mother - but not anything substantial about Jeremy and his family - only that he had problems at school ( that probably applies to 50% of the population)

[Patti]

I am not getting the point either ? He dyed his hair and wore fashionable clothes? Lots of people did that and do that now ?

Good job it wasn't in the 70's he would have had a flower in his hair 

[Jan]

Good job it wasn't in the 70's he would have had a flower in his hair 

Or he could have been a punk - crikey the family would have had a field day.

[Stephanie]

I am not getting the point either ? He dyed his hair and wore fashionable clothes? Lots of people did that and do that now ?

You seems to be looking at one behaviour at a time as opposed to looking at the overall picture.

[Stephanie]

Or he could have been a punk - crikey the family would have had a field day.

In America the word punk is used to describe someone who is worthless.

[lookout]

Good job it wasn't in the 70's he would have had a flower in his hair 

 

[lookout]

How about a teddy-boy ? DA haircut and drainpipe trousers. He'd have been a thug as well as a psychopath. Silly me,they're the same.

1 in every 100 people are psychopaths-----------even down to a nagging woman who is also one.

[Jan]

I've seen JB referred to as a 'chicken' and a 'coward.' We can't understand psychopaths because we evaluate them through the lens of our own motivations, values and emotions. This is a fundamental mistake.

Psychopaths aren't cowards, they are just hungry. Like a lion is to their prey.

I would say the same applies to Sheila - if she was guilty she was very ill - therefore we should not apply logic or emotion to her actions either. she may not have even seen the victims as her family.

It works both ways.