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[Patti]

The study of psychopathy is a relatively new science, if you can call it a science. In my opinion its a study of peoples behaviour and past experiences with a fancy name given to it.

Its a science that is still in its infancy and should not be used as a forensic tool to justify who is and who isn't a psychopath just because they have ticked a few boxes. I believe that many of us could tick some of the boxes, but we are not psychopaths.  Its believed that 3% of people living in England have this trait and just as many of us on a scale 1 to 10 have some psychopathy in us. 

Some say Jeremy has no empathy or feelings, but this is not true. He was deeply upset and cried buckets when Brambles his dog died so when did he become detached?

Saying he is a psychopath when none of us has met him, chatted to him, or seen him is a perfect example of what we are led to believe by reading stuff on the internet, books, television programs etc.  Its not that there is no truth in it, its a fascinating subject, but is it the bees knees way of categorising people for how they have lived in the past or present?   

[gringo]

Just in case you missed it, this was my reply to the last time you suggested this!

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6614.msg300615.html#msg300615

And this one;

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6614.msg300611.html#msg300611

  Do you consider forensic psychology to be a credible science?
     In the discussion you link to you also appear to not even understand that graphology and analysing handwriting to establish the identity of the writer are entirely different things. Do you still think that there are "some quite impressive results" that you "have read"?
   
     

[Caroline]

The study of psychopathy is a relatively new science, if you can call it a science. In my opinion its a study of peoples behaviour and past experiences with a fancy name given to it.

Its a science that is still in its infancy and should not be used as a forensic tool to justify who is and who isn't a psychopath just because they have ticked a few boxes. I believe that many of us could tick some of the boxes, but we are not psychopaths.  Its believed that 3% of people living in England have this trait and just as many of us on a scale 1 to 10 have some psychopathy in us. 

Some say Jeremy has no empathy or feelings, but this is not true. He was deeply upset and cried buckets when Brambles his dog died so when did he become detached?

Saying he is a psychopath when none of us has met him, chatted to him, or seen him is a perfect example of what we are led to believe by reading stuff on the internet, books, television programs etc.  Its not that there is no truth in it, its a fascinating subject, but is it the bees knees way of categorising people for how they have lived in the past or present?

I believe he is a psychopath because he killed 5 members of his family in cold  blood and he has no remorse. I also studied psychology for 4 years so I know what it thanks!

[Steve_uk]

I believe he is a psychopath because he killed 5 members of his family in cold  blood and he has no remorse. I also studied psychology for 4 years so I know what it thanks!

But is he not confessing because he is a psychopath or because he believes he has not done it,or are these two linked?

[Caroline]

  Do you consider forensic psychology to be a credible science?
     In the discussion you link to you also appear to not even understand that graphology and analysing handwriting to establish the identity of the writer are entirely different things. Do you still think that there are "some quite impressive results" that you "have read"?
   
     

Yes I do! I also know the difference between hand writing analysis and graphology what I'm not sure about, is your obsession with it - let me say again NO ONE THINKS THAT BAMBER IS A PSYCHOPATH BECAUSE OF HIS WRITING STYLE!

[Caroline]

But is he not confessing because he is a psychopath or because he believes he has not done it,or are these two linked?

That's the very reason.

[Adam]

Ofcom has rejected a complaint from convicted killer Jeremy Bamber that a documentary about him infringed his privacy and treated him unfairly.

Bamber was convicted of murdering his adopted parents, his sister and her six-year-old twin sons in 1986.

He has always protested his innocence and claims his schizophrenic sister shot her family in their remote Essex farmhouse before shooting herself.

He complained to the watchdog after Sky broadcast a documentary about the case.

Killing Mum And Dad: The Jeremy Bamber Story examined the police investigation into the crimes, featuring archive footage and photographs of Bamber.

It also included contributions from family members, acquaintances, journalists who covered the case and forensic psychologist Kerry Danes.

The communication watchdog's report said Bamber complained Ms Danes "unfairly and inaccurately portrayed him as a psychopath" despite never having met him.

He also complained that the programme "discussed at length, and ridiculed, intimate details about his sexual orientation which had no relevance to the offence of which he was convicted".

Ofcom concluded that the broadcaster's right to freedom of expression and the genuine public interest in examining the evidence against Bamber, and the possible motivation for the murders, "outweighed the intrusion into his privacy".

Bamber is serving a whole-life term for the murders.

[SaraT]

The stuff on the tractor portraying JB dressed up like a member of Spandau Ballet was ludicrous, and the way they got the actor to drive the tractor with hands out splayed to hammer home he was wearing red nail polish!
Even if true, what the hell was this supposed to prove? That he experimented with make up like thousands of other boys did at the time? Or that he dressed like this to piss off his parents like thousands of other boys and girls did? So much heresay and after the event condemning of JB's character. I was half expecting someone to come on and say that they knew he was a wrong 'un as his library books were overdue. As well as that how does anyone know for a fact how they would behave if their entire family had been murdered?

[Adam]

He was working on the farm in his 20's. A bit old to dressing up in new romantic gear.

[SaraT]

He was working on the farm in his 20's. A bit old to dressing up in new romantic gear.

It's the same age that most other people were wearing it.

[Stephanie]

It's the same age that most other people were wearing it.

You can explain it away as "most other people were wearing it" or you could consider it to be another psychopathic trait of sexual promiscuity. A possible indication of a gender identity disorder ultimately leading to psychopathy.
http://maritalhealing.com/conflicts/genderidentitydisorder.php

[lookout]

He was working on the farm in his 20's. A bit old to dressing up in new romantic gear.

Are you one of those who shuns transgender then ? Does it matter to you like it did to RWB and the rest of the narrow-minded crew ? Those who have a flamboyant nature like Jeremy had at the time,liked to be " in with the in crowd " .Do you see that as a crime ?

[Jane]

He was working on the farm in his 20's. A bit old to dressing up in new romantic gear.

How very judgemental.

[Stephanie]

Are you one of those who shuns transgender then ? Does it matter to you like it did to RWB and the rest of the narrow-minded crew ? Those who have a flamboyant nature like Jeremy had at the time,liked to be " in with the in crowd " .Do you see that as a crime ?

It has nothing to do with 'shunning transgender' or being homophobic or being 'narrow minded' this behaviour along with other behaviours can be a trait of pyschopathy.

[scipio_usmc]

Are you one of those who shuns transgender then ? Does it matter to you like it did to RWB and the rest of the narrow-minded crew ? Those who have a flamboyant nature like Jeremy had at the time,liked to be " in with the in crowd " .Do you see that as a crime ?

By definition transgender people have problems. A transgender person is one who is unhappy with the gender they were born with and wants to live out the delusion they are the opposite gender.  I doubt Jeremy falls into this category.  Instead of therapy to get people to come to grips with their gender it seems like the politically correct thing to do is to treat them as the gender they wish they had been born which frankly is absurd.

If someone wants to be recognized by others as being of the opposite gender then they should get a gender reassignment.

People who are gay have issues as well. Many need therapy to deal with their sexuality adequately but don't get it and that results in depression, lashing out, suicide and other things that could be avoided if they would deal with things through therapy instead.  One of my cousins in gay and while he admits he is not normal he doesn't outwardly do anything destructive.  What goes on in his mind who knows, he could be severely tortured but if that is the case he doesn't let it show. He might not need any therapy and might be fine with his situation.  He might be simply not outwardly revealing his problems and not allowing the to interrupt his life. When it interferes with life then help is needed.

We don't know jack about Jeremy to be able to assess whether he had some mental issues that need help because of sexuality conflicts, he surely wasn't transgender though.