Author Topic: June or Jeremy. Who would you choose for assistance ?  (Read 3171 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline lookout

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 48670
Re: June or Jeremy. Who would you choose for assistance ?
« Reply #30 on: April 25, 2015, 07:31:PM »
Susan,there was no blood drips,etc,leading from the bedroom downstairs to the kitchen that indicated that Neville had been upstairs.
Alias is right in saying that no blood was on Neville's side of the bed------------meaning that he wasn't shot upstairs because he hadn't been there. He may have attempted to have gone upstairs and was bashed for doing so,and so retreated back to the kitchen.

Had Jeremy done it,then he'd have timed it that they'd ALL been in bed,including his father,as Jeremy was no fighter and couldn't/wouldn't have attempted to have fought with his father,or he'd surely have come off worse,man to man. It was because Sheila was a woman,albeit an insane one,the reason that Neville didn't put up a fight.

Offline lookout

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 48670
Re: June or Jeremy. Who would you choose for assistance ?
« Reply #31 on: April 25, 2015, 07:34:PM »
The force with which June was murdered gave you the clue as to who the killer was.

Offline susan

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 16196
Re: June or Jeremy. Who would you choose for assistance ?
« Reply #32 on: April 25, 2015, 07:48:PM »
lookout I thought I had read that blood was on the side of the staircase walls but not too sure about this.  Ralph being shot downstairs certainly makes more sense but how did the 10 bullet casings end up in the bedroom.

Offline Alias

  • Editor
  • Veteran Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 9435
  • What is in those 200 boxes?
Re: June or Jeremy. Who would you choose for assistance ?
« Reply #33 on: April 25, 2015, 07:58:PM »
lookout I thought I had read that blood was on the side of the staircase walls but not too sure about this.  Ralph being shot downstairs certainly makes more sense but how did the 10 bullet casings end up in the bedroom.

It is all very strange.

Offline susan

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 16196
Re: June or Jeremy. Who would you choose for assistance ?
« Reply #34 on: April 25, 2015, 08:07:PM »
Alias can you come up with an explanation how all the 10 bullet casings were found in the bedroom as it does make more sense for Ralph to have been shot downstairs like lookout has pointed out.

Offline Alias

  • Editor
  • Veteran Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 9435
  • What is in those 200 boxes?
Re: June or Jeremy. Who would you choose for assistance ?
« Reply #35 on: April 25, 2015, 08:12:PM »
Alias can you come up with an explanation how all the 10 bullet casings were found in the bedroom as it does make more sense for Ralph to have been shot downstairs like lookout has pointed out.

No I cannot. No explanation. The lack of his blood upstairs is odd though, something is wrong here.

Offline scipio_usmc

  • Veteran Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 9502
Re: June or Jeremy. Who would you choose for assistance ?
« Reply #36 on: April 26, 2015, 01:03:AM »
The bullet that grazed Nevill was found in the bedroom as were the 4 casing.  People keep ignoring the bullet.  Furthermore people keep ignoring that the police didn't retain the bedding let alone tested it so we have no basis to know whether any of Nevill's blood was there or not.  Nor do we know whether any of Nevill's blood was in the room because only 2 carpeting samples were taken- 1 sample was at June's and the other sample at Sheila's feet.  Only 5 of the drops in each sample were tested not all the drops.  We have no way to know whether any of the multitude of other drops that were in the bedroom belonged to Nevill.  There was blood in the hallway outside the master bedroom that was tested but so far as I can tell they were unable to successfully do a group test.  It had to be Nevill's though since he is the only victim that made it into the hallway.  His blood was found on the walls going to the kitchen so clearly he was wounded before he entered the kitchen.

The whole reason the struggle in the kitchen occurred is because the gun was empty so the killer couldn't shoot Nevill the killer had to render him unconscious before the killer could reload then shoot him 4 times in the head.  It is clear only the 4 shots to the skull were delivered in the kitchen.

 
Politeness is organized indifference- Paul Valéry

Offline Adam

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 44293
Re: June or Jeremy. Who would you choose for assistance ?
« Reply #37 on: April 26, 2015, 08:02:AM »
Another reason why Neville would choose June is because he had a better relationship with her. They were husband and wife.

Both Neville, June and Sheila had a very poor relationship with Jeremy. As admitted by Jeremy himself.

It is actually very laughable to suggest that Neville would call Jeremy.  He would just make things worse. If he actually went inside WHF. Which he didn't.
« Last Edit: April 26, 2015, 08:26:AM by Adam »
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

Offline Alias

  • Editor
  • Veteran Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 9435
  • What is in those 200 boxes?
Re: June or Jeremy. Who would you choose for assistance ?
« Reply #38 on: April 26, 2015, 12:15:PM »
Another reason why Neville would choose June is because he had a better relationship with her. They were husband and wife.

Both Neville, June and Sheila had a very poor relationship with Jeremy. As admitted by Jeremy himself.

It is actually very laughable to suggest that Neville would call Jeremy.  He would just make things worse. If he actually went inside WHF. Which he didn't.

You don´t know any of what you are writing, you are guessing. Why are people so stingy with the words, I think, in my opinion and so forth?

Offline susan

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 16196
Re: June or Jeremy. Who would you choose for assistance ?
« Reply #39 on: April 26, 2015, 02:07:PM »
Adam I thought you were convinced that Ralph never phoned Jeremy or indeed anyone ???

Offline Adam

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 44293
Re: June or Jeremy. Who would you choose for assistance ?
« Reply #40 on: April 26, 2015, 02:09:PM »
Adam I thought you were convinced that Ralph never phoned Jeremy or indeed anyone ???

Jeremy is saying Neville phoned him. Choosing this option although there were lots of better ones.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

Offline susan

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 16196
Re: June or Jeremy. Who would you choose for assistance ?
« Reply #41 on: April 26, 2015, 02:25:PM »
Jeremy is saying Neville phoned him. Choosing this option although there were lots of better ones.

Adam I understand you now you are saying Jeremy could have come up with a better story than the one Ralph phoned him.  Gotcha ;D

Offline Adam

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 44293
Re: June or Jeremy. Who would you choose for assistance ?
« Reply #42 on: April 26, 2015, 02:33:PM »
Neville had several other better options. As my poll highlights. But according to Jeremy he chose to ring him. And ring the forth furthest away police station, Chelmsford.

Jeremy's best option was to phone the police and create the siege situation. Where he can spend several hours insinuating Sheila. The fake burglar/random stranger option was a non starter.
« Last Edit: April 26, 2015, 02:37:PM by Adam »
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

Offline lookout

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 48670
Re: June or Jeremy. Who would you choose for assistance ?
« Reply #43 on: April 26, 2015, 04:48:PM »
Jeremy is saying Neville phoned him. Choosing this option although there were lots of better ones.






If Neville didn't phone Jeremy,then why did Jeremy bother getting up ?

Offline scipio_usmc

  • Veteran Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 9502
Re: June or Jeremy. Who would you choose for assistance ?
« Reply #44 on: April 26, 2015, 09:41:PM »

If Neville didn't phone Jeremy,then why did Jeremy bother getting up ?

Jeremy never went to bed, he was the one who killed everyone.
Politeness is organized indifference- Paul Valéry