How would you react ?

[Adam]

if you phone 999 it means its an emergency if you just want a bit of back up its much better to hone the local police station.

i think he intended just go around there but was frightened to go on his own. in wich case the local number would be the number you would phone.

Yes he was frightened to go on his own. So phoned the forth furthest away police station.

But didn't want them to arrive with rifles. So just told them he had got a call from his father who had said Sheila had gone crazy with a loaded rifle.

[Jane]

yes well if you dont want people geting shot local plod are best people to get around there.

if you consider its a family member with the gun not a stranger and your own dads in there and theres 2 young children in there yoou might want the heavy crashing through the window armed to the teeth.

 To even consider, after that ALLEGED call, that a local plod would fit the bil is stretching belief too far. Never mind about them crashing through windows armed to the teeth with weapons their jobs and training has equipped them to use, my first priority would have been to make certain that a "mad" woman with a gun didn't use it inappropriately. Glass can be replaced, people can't.

[lookout]

Then why didn't June,Neville or even Sheila break a few windows to " scare the attacker away ?"

[lookout]

 According to a few ( tongue-in-cheek ) tabloids,Neville was found in the hall. Maybe trying to escape via the front door ?

[Jane]

I think in this day and age,a 999 call would be the absolute norm as most areas now have seen a great rise in crime over the last 30 years where police work flat-out as opposed to in the past where an ordinary station number would have summoned them as quickly as an urgent one.
The 3 in the morning then,was a lot,lot different to a 3 in the morning now--------times have changed,vastly. You actually had the bobby on a bike and on foot over 30 years ago.

As it was "the absolute norm" 30 years ago and maybe even MORE so then. As you so correctly point out, the only alternative MAY have been a bobby on a bike OR if he was lucky a hairdryer on wheels OR if her was VERY lucky, a Ford Anglia might have been available providing it wasn't too far out of area. I was only at HQ that the big response vehicles were readily available because they were garaged there. An "ordinary" station couldn't be guaranteed to summon any faster than calling 999 purely because they weren't manned 24/7. If the one guy manning it was on rest days there was no one to answer the phone so if a call was non urgent the caller had to phone the next nearest station. Not bu ANY stretch of the imagination can it be said that Jeremy's call to a local station was non urgent.

[Jane]

Then why didn't June,Neville or even Sheila break a few windows to " scare the attacker away ?"

WHO would have heard, Lookout -the place is isolated.

[lookout]

If Sheila could scare the electric man,then surely she wouldn't have been averse to scaring an "unwelcome guest " during one of her " do's ",being the first one to pick up a weapon in order to shield her children.


I'm sure the " attacker " would have left via the front door,as it wouldn't have made any difference,rather than exiting out of a window which would have been more noticeable if someone had been passing. Now that would have been suspicious

[nugnug]

 To even consider, after that ALLEGED call, that a local plod would fit the bil is stretching belief too far. Never mind about them crashing through windows armed to the teeth with weapons their jobs and training has equipped them to use, my first priority would have been to make certain that a "mad" woman with a gun didn't use it inappropriately. Glass can be replaced, people can't.

its a bit diffrent when the person holding the gun holding the gun is your own sister if a lot of armed police come out there is a good chance they will shoot her and theres a lot more chance that she will be panicked and shoot somebody inside.

[Jane]

If Sheila could scare the electric man,then surely she wouldn't have been averse to scaring an "unwelcome guest " during one of her " do's ",being the first one to pick up a weapon in order to shield her children.


I'm sure the " attacker " would have left via the front door,as it wouldn't have made any difference,rather than exiting out of a window which would have been more noticeable if someone had been passing. Now that would have been suspicious

Trying to re write what happened will neither change what happened, UNhappen what happened OR, imo, change who was responsible for it happening.

[Alias]

its very rare for the vicems familys to qustion the guilt of the man convicted of the crime im not suprised colin thinks jeremy did it.

That is true. I am sometimes surprised how relatives hold on to an unsafe conviction, even when there is crystal clear new proof.
Guess it must be human nature, because you see it all the time.

[Adam]

Then why didn't June,Neville or even Sheila break a few windows to " scare the attacker away ?"

How would breaking windows stop them getting shot ?

June and the twins were shot while asleep.

[lookout]

Trying to re write what happened will neither change what happened, UNhappen what happened OR, imo, change who was responsible for it happening.

Mmmmm,works both ways in this debate ?

[Adam]

That is true. I am sometimes surprised how relatives hold on to an unsafe conviction, even when there is crystal clear new proof.
Guess it must be human nature, because you see it all the time.

It is a safe conviction. Unbiased Mick Gradwell confirmed this. And so have the appeal judges.

[lookout]

WHO would have heard, Lookout -the place is isolated.

Mr Smith walking his dog had heard a gunshot ? So there's nothing like the sound of breaking glass as well as shooting into the air,to arouse those in the cottages not far away. Or even the odd one or two who like a walk in the summer air. Farmers start early in the harvest time if the weather's fine.

[Alias]

Hm! So he gets  a silly o' clock call from his panicked father who tells him his sister has gone mad and got hold of a gun, and to please come quickly......................and Jeremy thinks it ISN'T an emergency so the local plod on his push bike -or Ford Anglia if there's one available- will be enough back up?

If that phonecall happened, I can imagine it would have been very confusing for Jeremy.
First, he was half asleep, secondly, he must have wondered why his father called him and not the police and deduced that the situation couldn´t be all that serious, still serious enough to call the local cops, thirdly, there had been incidents in the past where Sheila had a breakdown during the night.
I do think he called Julie, because he did not quite know what to do. She didn´t take his call seriously and told him to go back to bed.