A fair trial?

[grahameb]

The porche thing has been done to death as Kaldin said it was a policeman trying to take his mind of things yet twisted people on here have actually said he murdered his family for a new porche.

It was and has been proved beyond doubt jb was talking about a kit car it was verified by the garage
and he had enough money in the bank to buy it.

As I have said before jb had a charmed life with parents that gave both children homes there is no record of violence between Jeremy and his Dad and he used to visit his sister in London and I have never seen any evidence that jb hated anyone and he was probably shocked when he found out Peter Eaton had punched his father

So Mr Eaton or Mrs Mugford or whoever you are believe what you like and point out anything from the above not to be true

I don't need to believe anything dear since I know it to be true.  Jeremy was jealous of his sister and resented Nevill paying for a flat for her in London while he toiled on the farm.  Jeremy opened his mouth once too often if you ask me in relation to the hate he had for his family making out they were all mad and threatening that Sheila would never get any of his money. Who the hell did he think he was anyway?

A more deceitful dishonest person you could not find.

Why was he jealous of his sister? Wasn't he given a house by his father?

Correction, his father bought a house in Goldhanger for him...there is a big difference.

Jeremy was jealous of Sheila and her fancy flat in Maida Vale in central London which Nevill paid for her.

Well it seems they were both bought something? Sheila a flat and Jeremy a house? Sorry but I can't see why he should be jealous? Where did you get the information from Sandy?

The flat in London was rented actually.  Sheila had to move there because her other flat was extremely damp and unhealthy.  Her then boyfriend 'Freddi' was asked by Nevill to find another suitable property for her to rent.

Quite correct, why is there so much misinformation bandied about on this forum?

Well because we are waiting for you knowledgabe folk to inform us ignorant folk. If we all knew everything there wouldn't be any use for a forum?

[grahameb]

Did I not say that Nevill bought a house, I didn't say it was in Jeremy's name.

Yes I quite understood what you said.

his father bought a house in Goldhanger for him

[sandy]

Well because we are waiting for you knowledgabe folk to inform us ignorant folk. If we all knew everything there wouldn't be any use for a forum?

The way I see it is that there is a concerted conspiracy to implicate Sheila in something which she clearly was incapable of doing and all in the name of trying to have Jeremy's conviction expunged.

I must say I had a chuckle when I read the post by Jackie when she said that the Governor and the screws knew that Jeremy is innocent.  Really ?   

[sandy]

Did I not say that Nevill bought a house, I didn't say it was in Jeremy's name.

Yes I quite understood what you said.

his father bought a house in Goldhanger for him

Maybe I didn't make it clear then and if that was the case I do apologise.

Nevill bought the house in Goldhanger for him to live in, Nevill retained the ownership of it.

Consequently the reason why Jeremy was jealous of Sheila and her new rented flat in upmarket London.

[grahameb]

Did I not say that Nevill bought a house, I didn't say it was in Jeremy's name.

Yes I quite understood what you said.

his father bought a house in Goldhanger for him

Maybe I didn't make it clear then and if that was the case I do apologise.

Nevill bought the house in Goldhanger for him to live in, Nevill retained the ownership of it.

Consequently the reason why Jeremy was jealous of Sheila and her new rented flat in upmarket London.

So he was jealous of her London lifestyle whilst he was slogging his guts out on the farm?

[Kaldin]

Did Jeremy ever ask his parents to rent a flat for him in London? He was 24 years old, he didn't have to work on the farm if he didn't want to. Presumably, he enjoyed country life.

[Jackiepreece]

Sandy usual rubbish from you where did I say about the governor and prison staff and anyway how would you know ?

So Jeremy killed two children and three adults because he was living in a cottage in a beautiful area close to work  and his  sister  was living in a rented flat in london all because he was jealous

We have already established you  cannot add up Sandy is their anything between your ears

[sandy]

Sandy usual rubbish from you where did I say about the governor and prison staff and anyway how would you know ?

So Jeremy killed two children and three adults because he was living in a cottage in a beautiful area close to work  and his  sister  was living in a rented flat in london all because he was jealous

We have already established you  cannot add up Sandy is their anything between your ears

Sounds like the sort of crap you would come up with Jackie.

No he killed them because he was greedy and wanted the £500,000

Still waiting on your report sis??  What did Jeremy say or is this another of your fantasies??

[John]

Sandy usual rubbish from you where did I say about the governor and prison staff and anyway how would you know ?

So Jeremy killed two children and three adults because he was living in a cottage in a beautiful area close to work  and his  sister  was living in a rented flat in london all because he was jealous

We have already established you  cannot add up Sandy is their anything between your ears

I believe it was Keira who said that about the screws and the gov.

[sandy]

Sandy usual rubbish from you where did I say about the governor and prison staff and anyway how would you know ?

So Jeremy killed two children and three adults because he was living in a cottage in a beautiful area close to work  and his  sister  was living in a rented flat in london all because he was jealous

We have already established you  cannot add up Sandy is their anything between your ears

I believe it was Keira who said that about the screws and the gov.

Ah you're right John, that Essex sea air must have gone for me yesterday.

Have a +1   

[Jackiepreece]

Thankyou but saying that I feel the same as Chochokeira JB has been helped in prison in many ways to show his innocence


Is everyone in prison allowed a lie detector on request

He was downgraded from a to b in 4 years unusual for a mass murderer

[sandy]

Thankyou but saying that I feel the same as Chochokeira JB has been helped in prison in many ways to show his innocence


Is everyone in prison allowed a lie detector on request

He was downgraded from a to b in 4 years unusual for a mass murderer

As far as I know  everyone is entitled to such a test but have to pay for it privately as such results are not as yet accepted by criminal courts in the UK.

[grahameb]

Thankyou but saying that I feel the same as Chochokeira JB has been helped in prison in many ways to show his innocence


Is everyone in prison allowed a lie detector on request

He was downgraded from a to b in 4 years unusual for a mass murderer

As far as I know  everyone is entitled to such a test but have to pay for it privately as such results are not as yet accepted by criminal courts in the UK.

Can prisoners be downgraded if they pay for it as well? Sorry my bad sense of humour again.

[sandy]

Did Jeremy ever ask his parents to rent a flat for him in London? He was 24 years old, he didn't have to work on the farm if he didn't want to. Presumably, he enjoyed country life.

Apparently he didn't want to but had to.

There seems to have been many arguments between Jeremy and Nevill over the farm and the caravan park. According to Robert Boutflour, Jeremy had developed an attitude to emotionally hurt those around him.

Robert Boutflour recalls a conversation he did have with Nevill about Jeremy.

RB   How's Jeremy getting on?
NB  "Good question!"
RB   Why don't you throw the bugger out?
NB   June won't let me.

Does that not say it all??  That Nevill actually contemplated throwing his adopted son out?

In a conversation with John Seabrook about Jeremy, Nevill had been reduced to tears.

Yes Kaldin, he enjoyed country life...NOT!


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[Kaldin]

Did Jeremy ever ask his parents to rent a flat for him in London? He was 24 years old, he didn't have to work on the farm if he didn't want to. Presumably, he enjoyed country life.

Apparently he didn't want to but had to.

There seems to have been many arguments between Jeremy and Nevill over the farm and the caravan park. According to Robert Boutflour, Jeremy had developed an attitude to emotionally hurt those around him.

Robert Boutflour recalls a conversation he did have with Nevill about Jeremy.

RB   How's Jeremy getting on?
NB  "Good question!"
RB   Why don't you throw the bugger out?
NB   June won't let me.

Does that not say it all??  That Nevill actually contemplated throwing his adopted son out?

Yes Kaldin, he enjoyed country life...NOT!


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Why did he have to work on the farm? He was a grown man and could do what he wanted.