A fair trial?

[Kaldin]

The porshe comment was made before anyone knew the situation was so serious inside WHF. Jeremy was making small talk with the police, remember it was several hours waiting around until the police got their act together and entered the farm. He didn't have much in common with them so talking about cars would be some common ground. Personally I have a big problem with Mugford's behaviour after being told that 5 people were about to be murdered that she did nothing.

That doesn't wash at all. Jeremy knew the minute he arrived at the farm that there was a big problem. In fact, if his conviction is safe he knew quite a bit earlier what was going on.

The talk about his new Porsche was totally inappropriate but hey, what can you expect from a sick mind who that to his own family including two lovely children?

I doubt that someone who'd just murdered his entire family would be talking about new cars anyway. I get the impression that PC Myall was trying to take Jeremy's mind of the situation and it was he who initiated the chit chat.

I get one of those "Jeremy didn´t do it" moments when I think about him talking about cars that night!

Yes. I'm not sure why Jeremy's behaviour is considered to be a sign of guilt really. If he'd murdered his family I'd expect him to be very on edge about whether he'd left anything undone.

[HMEssex]

The porshe comment was made before anyone knew the situation was so serious inside WHF. Jeremy was making small talk with the police, remember it was several hours waiting around until the police got their act together and entered the farm. He didn't have much in common with them so talking about cars would be some common ground. Personally I have a big problem with Mugford's behaviour after being told that 5 people were about to be murdered that she did nothing.

That doesn't wash at all. Jeremy knew the minute he arrived at the farm that there was a big problem. In fact, if his conviction is safe he knew quite a bit earlier what was going on.

The talk about his new Porsche was totally inappropriate but hey, what can you expect from a sick mind who that to his own family including two lovely children?

I doubt that someone who'd just murdered his entire family would be talking about new cars anyway. I get the impression that PC Myall was trying to take Jeremy's mind of the situation and it was he who initiated the chit chat.

Exactly Kaldin, and he was talking about a 'replica' kit car, not the real thing.

Oh that makes it ok then?

I think so, yes.  I've no idea what the price of a Porsche is, in 1985 or now (I could google it but can't be bothered to right now), but a kit car is, surely, thousands of £s less!

The point is that the officer was engaging him in conversation and this remark about JB made about wanting to get this replica car has been translated into him planning on splashing out on the real thing just to reinforce the idea that he was greedy.

[sandy]

Thus his need to get away, first to Amsterdam and then the south of France.

[sandy]

The porshe comment was made before anyone knew the situation was so serious inside WHF. Jeremy was making small talk with the police, remember it was several hours waiting around until the police got their act together and entered the farm. He didn't have much in common with them so talking about cars would be some common ground. Personally I have a big problem with Mugford's behaviour after being told that 5 people were about to be murdered that she did nothing.

That doesn't wash at all. Jeremy knew the minute he arrived at the farm that there was a big problem. In fact, if his conviction is safe he knew quite a bit earlier what was going on.

The talk about his new Porsche was totally inappropriate but hey, what can you expect from a sick mind who that to his own family including two lovely children?

I doubt that someone who'd just murdered his entire family would be talking about new cars anyway. I get the impression that PC Myall was trying to take Jeremy's mind of the situation and it was he who initiated the chit chat.

Exactly Kaldin, and he was talking about a 'replica' kit car, not the real thing.

Oh that makes it ok then?

I think so, yes.  I've no idea what the price of a Porsche is, in 1985 or now (I could google it but can't be bothered to right now), but a kit car is, surely, thousands of £s less!

The point is that the officer was engaging him in conversation and this remark about JB made about wanting to get this replica car has been translated into him planning on splashing out on the real thing just to reinforce the idea that he was greedy.

He WAS greedy.

Have you conveniently forgotten about the theft from the caravan park et all?

[Kaldin]

The porshe comment was made before anyone knew the situation was so serious inside WHF. Jeremy was making small talk with the police, remember it was several hours waiting around until the police got their act together and entered the farm. He didn't have much in common with them so talking about cars would be some common ground. Personally I have a big problem with Mugford's behaviour after being told that 5 people were about to be murdered that she did nothing.

That doesn't wash at all. Jeremy knew the minute he arrived at the farm that there was a big problem. In fact, if his conviction is safe he knew quite a bit earlier what was going on.

The talk about his new Porsche was totally inappropriate but hey, what can you expect from a sick mind who that to his own family including two lovely children?

I doubt that someone who'd just murdered his entire family would be talking about new cars anyway. I get the impression that PC Myall was trying to take Jeremy's mind of the situation and it was he who initiated the chit chat.

Exactly Kaldin, and he was talking about a 'replica' kit car, not the real thing.

Oh that makes it ok then?

I think so, yes.  I've no idea what the price of a Porsche is, in 1985 or now (I could google it but can't be bothered to right now), but a kit car is, surely, thousands of £s less!

The point is that the officer was engaging him in conversation and this remark about JB made about wanting to get this replica car has been translated into him planning on splashing out on the real thing just to reinforce the idea that he was greedy.

He WAS greedy.

Have you conveniently forgotten about the theft from the caravan park et all?

Maybe he was. Julie Mugford was as well, and so were the relatives. Being greedy doesn't make someone a murderer.

[sandy]

I believe they call it motive.

What makes you think the relatives were greedy exactly?

[lucy70]

The porshe comment was made before anyone knew the situation was so serious inside WHF. Jeremy was making small talk with the police, remember it was several hours waiting around until the police got their act together and entered the farm. He didn't have much in common with them so talking about cars would be some common ground. Personally I have a big problem with Mugford's behaviour after being told that 5 people were about to be murdered that she did nothing.

That doesn't wash at all. Jeremy knew the minute he arrived at the farm that there was a big problem. In fact, if his conviction is safe he knew quite a bit earlier what was going on.

The talk about his new Porsche was totally inappropriate but hey, what can you expect from a sick mind who that to his own family including two lovely children?

I doubt that someone who'd just murdered his entire family would be talking about new cars anyway. I get the impression that PC Myall was trying to take Jeremy's mind of the situation and it was he who initiated the chit chat.

Exactly Kaldin, and he was talking about a 'replica' kit car, not the real thing.

Oh that makes it ok then?

I think so, yes.  I've no idea what the price of a Porsche is, in 1985 or now (I could google it but can't be bothered to right now), but a kit car is, surely, thousands of £s less!

The point is that the officer was engaging him in conversation and this remark about JB made about wanting to get this replica car has been translated into him planning on splashing out on the real thing just to reinforce the idea that he was greedy.

Considering the fact that he visited the family accountant and solicitor to see what he could get 24 hours (yes 24 hours!) after his whole family had been murdered and then proceeded to go about selling everything of value in both his parents house and Sheila's flat, think it's fair to say that yes he was greedy!

[sandy]

The porshe comment was made before anyone knew the situation was so serious inside WHF. Jeremy was making small talk with the police, remember it was several hours waiting around until the police got their act together and entered the farm. He didn't have much in common with them so talking about cars would be some common ground. Personally I have a big problem with Mugford's behaviour after being told that 5 people were about to be murdered that she did nothing.

That doesn't wash at all. Jeremy knew the minute he arrived at the farm that there was a big problem. In fact, if his conviction is safe he knew quite a bit earlier what was going on.

The talk about his new Porsche was totally inappropriate but hey, what can you expect from a sick mind who that to his own family including two lovely children?

I doubt that someone who'd just murdered his entire family would be talking about new cars anyway. I get the impression that PC Myall was trying to take Jeremy's mind of the situation and it was he who initiated the chit chat.

Exactly Kaldin, and he was talking about a 'replica' kit car, not the real thing.

Oh that makes it ok then?

I think so, yes.  I've no idea what the price of a Porsche is, in 1985 or now (I could google it but can't be bothered to right now), but a kit car is, surely, thousands of £s less!

The point is that the officer was engaging him in conversation and this remark about JB made about wanting to get this replica car has been translated into him planning on splashing out on the real thing just to reinforce the idea that he was greedy.

Considering the fact that he visited the family accountant and solicitor to see what he could get 24 hours (yes 24 hours!) after his whole family had been murdered and then proceeded to go about selling everything of value in both his parents house and Sheila's flat, think it's fair to say that yes he was greedy!

I would go further than that Lucy and say that he was an utter disgrace.

Did you know that he contemplated burning down the house initially but the greed interrupted him as burning down the house would destroy all those precious articles he so dearly coveted.

[Kaldin]

I believe they call it motive.

What makes you think the relatives were greedy exactly?

They couldn't wait to get their hands on the inheritance could they? They even argued about who should have what.

[sandy]

That was their prerogative.  They didn't murder anyone to get their legal inheritance though.

[Kaldin]

That was their prerogative.  They didn't murder anyone to get their legal inheritance though.

You asked me why I thought they were greedy, and I told you. Nobody accused them of murder.

[grahameb]

The porshe comment was made before anyone knew the situation was so serious inside WHF. Jeremy was making small talk with the police, remember it was several hours waiting around until the police got their act together and entered the farm. He didn't have much in common with them so talking about cars would be some common ground. Personally I have a big problem with Mugford's behaviour after being told that 5 people were about to be murdered that she did nothing.

That doesn't wash at all. Jeremy knew the minute he arrived at the farm that there was a big problem. In fact, if his conviction is safe he knew quite a bit earlier what was going on.

The talk about his new Porsche was totally inappropriate but hey, what can you expect from a sick mind who that to his own family including two lovely children?

I doubt that someone who'd just murdered his entire family would be talking about new cars anyway. I get the impression that PC Myall was trying to take Jeremy's mind of the situation and it was he who initiated the chit chat.

Exactly Kaldin, and he was talking about a 'replica' kit car, not the real thing.

Oh that makes it ok then?

I think so, yes.  I've no idea what the price of a Porsche is, in 1985 or now (I could google it but can't be bothered to right now), but a kit car is, surely, thousands of £s less!

The point is that the officer was engaging him in conversation and this remark about JB made about wanting to get this replica car has been translated into him planning on splashing out on the real thing just to reinforce the idea that he was greedy.

Considering the fact that he visited the family accountant and solicitor to see what he could get 24 hours (yes 24 hours!) after his whole family had been murdered and then proceeded to go about selling everything of value in both his parents house and Sheila's flat, think it's fair to say that yes he was greedy!

Could you give a link to the documents detailing this please? Are they on the forum?

[Jackiepreece]

The porche thing has been done to death as Kaldin said it was a policeman trying to take his mind of things yet twisted people on here have actually said he murdered his family for a new porche.

It was and has been proved beyond doubt jb was talking about a kit car it was verified by the garage
and he had enough money in the bank to buy it.

As I have said before jb had a charmed life with parents that gave both children homes there is no record of violence between Jeremy and his Dad and he used to visit his sister in London and I have never seen any evidence that jb hated anyone and he was probably shocked when he found out Peter Eaton had punched his father

So Mr Eaton or Mrs Mugford or whoever you are believe what you like and point out anything from the above not to be true

[John]

The porshe comment was made before anyone knew the situation was so serious inside WHF. Jeremy was making small talk with the police, remember it was several hours waiting around until the police got their act together and entered the farm. He didn't have much in common with them so talking about cars would be some common ground. Personally I have a big problem with Mugford's behaviour after being told that 5 people were about to be murdered that she did nothing.

That doesn't wash at all. Jeremy knew the minute he arrived at the farm that there was a big problem. In fact, if his conviction is safe he knew quite a bit earlier what was going on.

The talk about his new Porsche was totally inappropriate but hey, what can you expect from a sick mind who that to his own family including two lovely children?

I doubt that someone who'd just murdered his entire family would be talking about new cars anyway. I get the impression that PC Myall was trying to take Jeremy's mind of the situation and it was he who initiated the chit chat.

Exactly Kaldin, and he was talking about a 'replica' kit car, not the real thing.

Oh that makes it ok then?

I think so, yes.  I've no idea what the price of a Porsche is, in 1985 or now (I could google it but can't be bothered to right now), but a kit car is, surely, thousands of £s less!

The point is that the officer was engaging him in conversation and this remark about JB made about wanting to get this replica car has been translated into him planning on splashing out on the real thing just to reinforce the idea that he was greedy.

Considering the fact that he visited the family accountant and solicitor to see what he could get 24 hours (yes 24 hours!) after his whole family had been murdered and then proceeded to go about selling everything of value in both his parents house and Sheila's flat, think it's fair to say that yes he was greedy!

Wasn't he so consumed with greed for cash that he ransacked the farmhouse looking for money that Nevill had allegedely stashed away from the tax man?  Did the spoiled child have no bounds?

[sandy]

The porche thing has been done to death as Kaldin said it was a policeman trying to take his mind of things yet twisted people on here have actually said he murdered his family for a new porche.

It was and has been proved beyond doubt jb was talking about a kit car it was verified by the garage
and he had enough money in the bank to buy it.

As I have said before jb had a charmed life with parents that gave both children homes there is no record of violence between Jeremy and his Dad and he used to visit his sister in London and I have never seen any evidence that jb hated anyone and he was probably shocked when he found out Peter Eaton had punched his father

So Mr Eaton or Mrs Mugford or whoever you are believe what you like and point out anything from the above not to be true

I don't need to believe anything dear since I know it to be true.  Jeremy was jealous of his sister and resented Nevill paying for a flat for her in London while he toiled on the farm.  Jeremy opened his mouth once too often if you ask me in relation to the hate he had for his family making out they were all mad and threatening that Sheila would never get any of his money. Who the hell did he think he was anyway?

A more deceitful dishonest person you could not find.