13 bullet cases in m/bedroom, yet no follower plate mark found on them...

[mike tesko]

'Z' confirmed to us that at varying intervals between 9 and 10 O'clock that morning, that various senior officers came and left the scene that morning. For example, entry into the main bedroom by all senior officers at one time or another was duly captured in the video footage, as was the arrival in particular there of DCI Harris, DCI Gibbons, DCI Wright, DCI Clark, DCI Jones, and all the others, at a time when Sheila's body had been either on the bed with only a solitary bullet wound in her neck and no rifle anywhere near Sheila's body, or on the floor by the side of the bed, with a second shot in the neck, but still no gun near Sheila's body. The rifle is shown to be leaning at the bedroom window whilst all these senior officers are in attendance inside the main bedroom viewing Sheila's body, before the rifle is brought from the bedroom window and physically placed onto her body by the police, and Sheila's arms arranged upon and around the gun, as if clasping the weapon to herself - senior officers are still present inside the bedroom when the body and the rifle is being staged by the police themselves, its all recorded in different sections of the crime scene video footage, being taken by DS Davidson (SOCO)...

[scipio_usmc]

How could DS Davidson fingerprint one of the four parker hale silencers, on the 9th August 1985, if one had not already been seized beforehand?

He didn't fingerprint it.  He testified at the COLP hearing that he never saw the moderator even to that day in 1991.

You simply resort to distortion after distortion.

You posted this document which says there was no recollection of any training exercise and claim it establishes a training exercise took place.  In the meantime you didn't post the attachment which belongs to it so we could see exactly what was being claimed in the first place.  You didn't attach it so you could pretend it said anything you wanted

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,1116.msg34415.html#msg34415

That is how you operate you ignore the relaity and twist to pretend things say anything you desire and most of the time don't post the evidence so we can't see that you are distorting.  Occasionally you do post it and simply ignore that the evidence states the complete opposite of what you claim.

[mike tesko]

Since 'Z' has left us on Tuesday, there has been speculation that the actual moment that Sheila received the second fatal shot beneath the chin was inflicted must have been recorded in the very same crime scene video footage. 'Z' himself has thus far never confided in me, nor did he mention this to the Cyclops members, but we are all in agreement that there has to be a very strong possibility of that having occurred...

[mike tesko]

Since 'Z' has left us on Tuesday, there has been speculation that the actual moment that Sheila received the second fatal shot beneath the chin was inflicted must have been recorded in the very same crime scene video footage. 'Z' himself has thus far never confided in me, nor did he mention this to the Cyclops members, but we are all in agreement that there has to be a very strong possibility of that having occurred...

just imagine that, police have potentially been in possession of video footage showing the actual circumstances of how the police (not Jeremy) shot and killed Sheila Caffell?

[mike tesko]

'Z' did confirm whilst in our presence that a total of 2 video tapes were used to take footage at the scene between 9 and 10 O'clock...

[notsure]

Blimey, if it is all true, what would that do to you scip

[notsure]

Are you sure you're bored scip? i think not, I think you enjoy it

[mike tesko]

'Z' did confirm whilst in our presence that a total of 2 video tapes were used to take footage at the scene between 9 and 10 O'clock...

Bambers legal team have thus far only been privy to access of the second of these 2 tapes - key evidence proving police shot Sheila was recorded in the first video tape, proving police shot and killed Sheila, and that Jeremy Bamber could not have done. At the monent the first tape is withheld under pii, but Bambers legal team could now make a high court application now that its contents are known, to order the authorities to release the footage recorded on that first tape of the moment police shot and killed Sheila Caffell, whilst using her body as a prop in a film set. Under these circumstances that particular footage may be obtained in the public interest because it would prove once and for all that Jeremy Bamber did not kill his sister, he did not stage manage her body to make it appear like she had taken her own life, but the police did...

[mike tesko]

Cyclops members returning to the UK tomorrow have promised to research the procedures and protocols involved in videoing crime scenes back in August 1985...

On the other hand, found amongst our database is confirmation that police did take video footage at the crime scene with the bodies insitu on the morning of 7th August 1985. This is in addition to confirmation from Jeremy himself, that he has seen various images of his family being used and abused by the police disrepectfully at the scene, he complaining that police used the bodies of his family like props in a film set...

[scipio_usmc]

Blimey, if it is all true, what would that do to you scip

If what were true?  This is all pure fantasy there is no officer Z.  There was no training exercise, the gun was cleared before the superiors ever entered the house and before Dr Craig declared her dead. This is all made up nonsense.

[guest154]

Blimey, if it is all true, what would that do to you scip

Do you believe it?

[notsure]

Im a bit lost to be honest. Who wre cyclops and z?

why are they meeting in spain and who are they,

i admit it all seems rather bizare but why is he doing all this and saying what he is. ..?

[scipio_usmc]

Im a bit lost to be honest. Who wre cyclops and z?

why are they meeting in spain and who are they,

i admit it all seems rather bizare but why is he doing all this and saying what he is. ..?

Mike has been unable to find any evidence to establish any wrongdoing so he makes up such evidence.

He used to claim he learned such things from Jeremy and loves the attention he garners from Jeremy supporters who defer to him because he personally interacted with Jeremy and some members of the team working on Jeremy's appeal/campaign team.

Jeremy broke off all contact with him so he has needed to make up other sources of information to pretend he is still in the loop and can get people to pay attention to him.

Part of that is he made up that a police officer is a secret informant of his and that this officer feeds him information.  On an irregular basis he claims to be meeting with this informant and reporting new scandalous claims made by the informant.  There is no informant he is making up the claims and simply pretending an informant is making the claims.

A few months ago he made up a group called Cylcops that he claims is working on Jeremy's case to exonerate him.  He pretends he meets with them and attributes nonsense claims to them as well.

He is not fooling anyone so the whole charade is quite pointless and just detracts from genuine debate.

[mike tesko]

We now know that DS Davidson took the video footage at the scene, between 9am, and 10 am, although no witness statement or report or corresponding pocketbook entry has yet been confirmed or disclosed. The reason for this as we have only just been told by an ex serving officer (Z) is that this material has been withheld under pii. Infact, Davidsons video footage comes in two parts, part (1) recorded on a video tape covering events inside the farmhouse between around 9am and 9.30am, and the second part of the events covering from about 9.30am to around 10am, recorded on the second tape. 'Z' has told us this week that the CCRC have been given access to part (2) of the footage, but not to part (1).  We believe that Jeremys legal team have had access to part (2) of the recording, but that the CCRC refused to let Jeremy himself view its contents on the grounds that its contents were too sensitive and shocking. However, Jeremy has been told by his legal team that the bodies of his family were used like props in the stage managing process involving the bodies of victims being positioned and then eventually photographed by PC Bird, as though the positions victims were photographed in by Bird from 10 O'clock onward, was the position the bodies had been in ever since police gained entry into the farmhouse at around 7.30am, which they hadn't been...

[Jan]

No Scipio He does not get attention from supporters. That is what you pointed out in a previous post.

We just let him post what he wants and try to avoid being rude to him.