13 bullet cases in m/bedroom, yet no follower plate mark found on them...

[Neil]

There is no way to sugarcoat it when someone is lying and simply making things up.  Long ago I demonstrated Mike was wrong about there being an exhibit marked SJ/1 and showed that Cook's COLP statement doesn't state such.  Mike doubled down by making up that he has photos of the moderator with a tag marked SJ/1.  His claim he possesses them but refuses to release them is not credible.  Clearly COLP would have questioned witnesses regarding a label marked SJ/1 if one had actually existed so it is patently obvious he made up these photos just like he made up that Cook's witness statement asserts he marked it SJ/1.  At some point these things can no longer be characterized as reasonable mistakes.  When you progress to making up photos that support your claims things have escalated to the level of outright fraud. There is no kind way to put it.

Similarly, COLP made clear the only Holab form that ever referred to a moderator as 23 is one of the triplicate copies of the 8/13/85 submission.  Mike chose to ignore such and insists he has a form from 8/30/85 that shows the moderator was known on this date as lab number 23 police exhibit DB/1.  It is obvious Mike made up possessing such document because if it actually existed then Cook and others would have been asked by COLP about it. 

Mike still hasn't learned that making up things is pointless.  Most xxxxxx xxxxxx xxxx.



 He mainly posts in his own threads to himself and few people respond to him.  Those who do typically humor him simply.

It seems like he is tolerated simply because he runs the site so he has to be but people largely go on about their business xx xx xx xxxx xxxx.  It is quite an odd dynamic.

He seems to be seeking attention with his stories but is not getting the attention he seeks so his efforts are backfiring. I don't understand why he continues full steam ahead with such instead of posting honestly in a way that brings him into the community of posters instead of essentially a pariah.  It makes no sense to me at all.         

[scipio_usmc]

Let's look at the known and established facts:-

Prosecution witness David Boutflour owned and possessed a parker hale silencer
prosecution witness Robert Boutflour owned and possessed a parker hale silencer
prosecution witness Anthony Pargeter owned and possessed a parker hale silencer
prosecution witness Peter Eaton owned and possessed q parker hale silencer
prosecution witness Ann Eaton owned and possessed a parker hale silencer

On 7th August 1985, the day of the shootings police looked inside the cupboard at whf and did not see or come across a parkerhale silencer at all. We only have the relatives say so that they recovered the parker hale silencer from the scene on the 10thvAugust 1985, but it is equally just as lijeky that onebor more if them had it in thier oossession all of the time...

The police at the scene didn't know Nevill owned a moderator so didn't know to look for it.  The crime scene officers didn't search through all the boxes in the closet and didn't look for a moderator.  The family first told OTHER Police about the moderator on the 8th of August.  After such notice Taff Jones didn't bother to have such police search for the moderator because he didn't think it relevant since Jeremy claimed he left the gun out without the moderator attached.  Even when it was turned in police didn't think much of it despite the blood they assumed it was simply animal blood. Only when the lab determined it was human blood did they even begin to take note and at that point they though the only potential value it held was in terms of fingerprints.

The family assumed police seized Nevill's moderator and if they didn't find Nevill's moderator then they would have figured police had it.  It is absurd to suggest they would have doctored one of their own moderators and then misrepresented finding it at WHF if they thought police already had Nevill's moderator.  It would be plainly obvious they could not have found Nevill's moderator if police already had it. The only way they would turn in a moderator to police and claim it was found at WHF would be if they actually found a moderator at WHF and thus knew police failed to take it.  If they wanted to doctor a moderator they would doctor the actual moderator found at WHF not one of their own.

The only allegation a Jeremy supporter could make that would make any sense at all would be to claim they doctored Nevill's moderator which they found at WHF but there is no evidence they did doctor it and no evidence they had the skill or knowledge to be able to doctor it so as to plant Sheila's blood type on the first 8 baffles, tiny specks of blood on the outside and the paint.

[mike tesko]

Not only did DS Jones return to the scene from Jeremys cottage on the morning of the shootings, but upon returning there at just sfter 11am, he took possession of a parker hale silencer (SBJ/1), which DS Davidson fingerprinted on 9th August 1985...

[mike tesko]

Notice to all member's - I do not post information expecting any response from anyone, I merely post to inform others of certainand specific facts. This is a forum not a court of law, and there is no requirement for anyone to swear on oath, just for members to post thier opinion. If I never get another response ever it will not upset me, because my purpose is simply to inform, not to dictate...

[mike tesko]

Cyclops members returning to the UK tomorrow...

[mike tesko]

I will be posting some new material upon my own return to the UK on Sunday afternoon, at the request of Cyclops members...

[mike tesko]

One good thing which has come out of this Spanish get together, is that Cyclops members have at last met up with former officer 'Z', and had the opportunity to speak with him privately out of my earshot or influence. The culmination of these meetings has left some cyclops members elated and optimistic for any forth coming appeal application made on Jeremy Bambers behalf in the coming months. Prior to 'Z' flying back to the UK, he showed Cyclops members a photograph of Sheila on the bed with only a solitary wound on her neck. This event has been the topic of conversation between us all here in Majorca since his departure from Palma airport on Tuesday. We all spent the day yesterday in Can Picaforte on the beach. Today, we have all been down at the harbour at Port Alcudia...

Tomorrow, Cyclops members fly home to the UK from Palma airport...

Everyone is feeling optimistic for the future...

[mike tesko]

Now that other members of the forum have seen this image of Sheila's body on the bed with only one shot in her neck, the tension in the atmosphere has been lifted somewhat, because Cyclops members now know that what I have been maintaining since 2004, was true. At least that is the impression that I got through speaking with one or two of them after 'Z' left Palma, UK bound on Tuesday...

[mike tesko]

This has prompted one Cyclops member to declare that as far as he is concerned now that he has been shown one of the photographs of Sheila on the bed only shot once, he is convinced that Sheila must have still been alive at the time this photograph was taken. He has also spoken to me saying that the blood found in the silencer and grouped with Sheila's must be either genuine, or fabricated. When I asked him to elaborate he said that if the presehce of Sheila' unique blood found in the silencer, then police must have known there had been a silencer fitted to the gun barrel at the time the next shot which killed her was fired. He said because police deny a silencer was fitted to the barrel of the rifle, that the blood evidence got into the silencer by contamination, or at the time when the initial shot to the neck was inflicted...

Today, we have been looking at the circular mark which is visible around the lower bullet entry wound upon Sheila's neck. Cyclops members said that When 'Z' showed them the photograph of Sheila on the bed, that he made a point of drawing thier attention to this circular mark around the circumference of the solitary bullet hole in Sheila's neck, adding that the diameter and circumference of that circular marks characteristics, is the same as the end of a silencer. Cyclops members are satisfied that a silencer was fitted to the barrel of the gun, which had fired that non fatal lower neck wound shot...

I agree...

[scipio_usmc]

Not only did DS Jones return to the scene fr8m Jeremys cottage on the morning of the shootings, but upon returning there at just sfter 11am, he took possession of a parker hale silencer (SBJ/1), which DS Davidson fingerprinted on 9th August 1985...

You have zero evidence that Jones found a moderator and took it away on August 7 or any other day.  Jones doesn't claim he found it, there ar eno documents claiming such, no one else claims such there is no evidence of a moderator being seized until August 12th at Oak Farm. 

You simply made up this claim from thin air there is no evidentiary basis at all for it.

The first reference to SBJ/1 is dated Aug 13, 1985 when Cook created such exhibit reference by filling out a label and sticking it on the moderator and filling out 3 Holab forms to convey it to the lab where he wrote SBJ/1.  This is the moderator that Peter Eaton gave to Jones on August 12 according to the testimony of all involved and the documents.

You ignore this and just make up anything you feel like just like you made up that Ann Eaton owned a .22 Parker Hale moderator even though she didn't even own a .22 rifle and said she only knew how to use shotguns. Making things up merely demonstrates you like to make things up and should not be trusted. Instead of getting people to fall for your claims it gets people to refuse to believe a single word you say unless you can provide concrete proof even for minor issues.

[scipio_usmc]

Notice to all member's - I do not post information expecting any response from anyone, I merely post to inform others of certainand specific facts. This is a forum not a court of law, and there is no requirement for anyone to swear on oath, just for members to post thier opinion. If I never get another response ever it will not upset me, because my purpose is simply to inform, not to dictate...

When the claims you posts are false I post a response in order to demonstrate your claims are false.  We are both informing onyl I happen to be informing for the sake of accuracy...

[mike tesko]

Today, we have all been sharing eachothers thoughts regarding the implications of Sheila's body being photographed on the bed, at a time when she had only been shot once, and with use of a silenced weapon?  Additionally, 'Z' had told uscall on Monday of this week that the crime scene was videod from around 9am until 11am, during which time Sheila's body was already on the bed, there was no rifle on her body, and she had only been shot once by that stage. He told us all in a clear and precise manner how during a training exercise, a rifle was brought from the bedroom window and placed against the body on the bed. 'Z' told us that the second shot was inflicted whilst Sheila was laid down flat on the top of the bed, apparently unconscious. The rifle brought from the window onto the body was mistakenly believed to have been made safe and empty, but according to 'Z' it still had a live round in its breach...

[mike tesko]

How could DS Davidson fingerprint one of the four parker hale silencers, on the 9th August 1985, if one had not already been seized beforehand?

[scipio_usmc]

Now that other members of the forum have seen this image of Sheila's body on the bed with only one shot in her neck, the tension in the atmosphere has been lifted somewhat, because Cyclops members now know that what I have been maintaining since 2004, was true. At least that is the impression that I got through speaking with one or two of them after 'Z' left Palma, UK bound on Tuesday...

You didn't post any photo of Sheila on the bed

[mike tesko]

'Z' Confirmed that once Sheila's body was moved to the floor, police repositioned her body alongside the edge of the bed, on the floor, and that there was no rifle near her body when PS Adams entered the main bedroom and spoke to other officers present there. 'Z' told us that PS Adams visit to the main bedroom that morning aforementioned was captured in the video footage being taken. He also confirmed that recorded in the very same video footage was the arrival of PC Wright the coroners officer, at just before 9.30am, at a time when there was still no rifle at all on Sheila's body...