13 bullet cases in m/bedroom, yet no follower plate mark found on them...

[mike tesko]

What a very coincidental set of circumstances, four parker hale silencers, 4 sets of exhibit references, 1st silencer known as SBJ/1. Second silencer known as SJ/1. Third silencer known as DB/1. Fourth silencer known at one time or another by the following exhibit references, AE/1, CAE/1 and DRB/1...

four parker hale silencers owned by:-

Anthony Pargeter
Robert Woodwis Boutflour
David Boutflour
Ralph Bamber

[scipio_usmc]

We all know, that is everyone who is genuinely interested, that two sound moderators were normally kept at whf, and that one of these belonged to Anthony Pargeter, and that the other belonged to Ralph Bamber. Anthony pargeter purchased his parker hale silencer in 1980,!whilst Ralph Bamber purchased his parker hale silencer in November 1984. The former had 17 internal baffle plates, the latter only 15 internal baffle plates...

The evidence shows that AP took his rifle home after his last visit. There is zero evidence that his rifle was at WHF during the murders.  There is zero evidence his moderator was looked at by police in any detail until 1991.

Nevill's moderator had 17 baffle plates. In November 1984 Parker-Hale stopped manufacturing the 17 baffle version and changed to 14.  Nevill purchased his weapon in November 1984.  The gun store didn't have moderators manufactured days earlier- the stock in the store were received from the factory previously from the 17 baffle version.  You have nothing to establish otherwise just your made up claim much like your claim AP's rifle was at WHF during the murders is simply made up you have zero support. A publication ended up liable for slander because it could not provide any evidence to establish AP's rifle was at WHF during the murders and the court thus held it asserted AP's weapon was there with a reckless disregard for the truth.  You are doing the same thing.  You are also asserting Nevill's had 14 baffles with a reckless disregard for the truth because you have zero evidence to establish such.  The fact they stopped making the 17 baffle version in the same month that Nevill purchased his weapon is not proof that all those sold in any store had 14 baffles.  Parker Hale was still shipping out 17 baffled versions in November 1984 and it took stores well into 1985 and stores that didn't sell many moderators longer than that to exhaust their 17 baffle version supply.

Your twisting just helps cement why nothing you say can be trusted.

[mike tesko]

The grey coloured hair was present on the parker hale silencer which Peter Eaton handed to DS Jones on 12th August 1985, this was not the parker hale silencer owned by Ralph Bamber, it was a parker hale silencer owned by one of the relatives...

[scipio_usmc]

No information exists to confirm when the other two parker hale silencers owned by Robert Woodwis Boutflour, and his son David Boutflour had purchased their respective parker hale silencers, but both fell into the possession of the police as part of thier investigation into the 5 deaths - both silencers were later brought secretly to the trial by a police motor cycle outrider, but they didn't inform anybody that these steps had been taken, or why indeed they were brought to the trial in the first place...

Their moderators were looked at in 1986.

[mike tesko]

Ralph Bamber went along to Radcliffe the gun dealers in Colchester, on the 24th November to purchase the .22 semi-automatic rifle and parker hale silencer. However, the gun dealor informed Ralph Bamber that he would have to order the parker hale silencer from the manufacturers because on the 24th November he simply did not have any parker hale silencers in stock, because a new version had been manufactured from the beginning of the month. Radcliffe promised to get Ralph Bamber the very latest model which had been put into circulation from the beginning of the month. Arrangements were therefore made for the anshuzt rifle, new version of the parker hale silencer and 500 rounds of ammunition to be delivered directly to whf as soon as everything was received from the manufacturer. This fell on the 30th November 1984, and on that date, Radcliffe duly delivered evrything to Ralph Bamber at whf on the same day...

[scipio_usmc]

What a very coincidental set of circumstances, four parker hale silencers, 4 sets of exhibit references, 1st silencer known as SBJ/1. Second silencer known as SJ/1. Third silencer known as DB/1. Fourth silencer known at one time or another by the following exhibit references, AE/1, CAE/1 and DRB/1...

CAE/1 was one of Ann Eaton's notecards.

AE/1 appears to have been the scope taken from Ann Eaton on September 11

SJ/1 was never an exhibit you made it up

The same day SBJ/1 was renamed DB/1, AE/1 and AE/2 were renamed DB/2 and DB/3.

The same day DB/1 was changed to DRB/1 DB/2 and DB/3 were renamed DRB/2 and DRB/3.

Even a monkey can recognize that since David Bird was using DB that the moderator, scope and bullets labeled DB/1-3 would have to be changed to a different designation.  The reason for the change is unassailable.

In the meantime the change to reflect they had been found by Boutflour is well reasoned and supported by evidence which demonstrates the change occurred and that no moderator was submitted in the first instance under the DB label.  It was known as SBJ during the early days and the lab was specifically notified of the change in designation and documents were then amended to reflect the change.

The COLP investigation fully explored this issue and found the complete opposite of the nonsense you spew.  Jeremy's team abandoned efforts to attack the moderator evidence on this basis because the COLP investigation cleared up the issues. 

[mike tesko]

Everything points to the 3 parker hale silencers (SBJ/1, SJ/1, and DB/1) owned by the three named relatives falling into the possession of pokice, on 7th August 1985, 12th August 1985, and the 30th August 1985...

[scipio_usmc]

Ralph Bamber went along to Radcliffe the gun dealers in Colchester, on the 24th November to purchase the .22 semi-automatic rifle and parker hale silencer. However, the gun dealor informed Ralph Bamber that he would have to order the parker hale silencer from the manufacturers because on the 24th November he simply did not have any parker hale silencers in stock, because a new version had been manufactured from the beginning of the month. Radcliffe promised to get Ralph Bamber the very latest model which had been put into circulation from the beginning of the month. Arrangements were therefore made for the anshuzt rifle, new version of the parker hale silencer and 500 rounds of ammunition to be delivered directly to whf as soon as everything was received from the manufacturer. This fell on the 30th November 1984, and on that date, Radcliffe duly delivered evrything to Ralph Bamber at whf on the same day...

You made this up.  Your lies render you a sad, pathetic joke. Neither Radcliffe nor anyone else has EVER claimed anything was delivered to WHF because it was out of stock at the time he made his purchase.  You have no evidentiary basis for such a claim you simply made it up.  This is one of the reasons why Jeremy kicked you to the curb you simply make things up and in the process he looks bad because the lies being made up are for his benefit so it makes it look like he put you up to it. Obvious lies do not help Jeremy they simply hurt your credibility.  I suppose at some point one hits rock bottom and has no credibility left to lose so has nothing to lose in continuing to make up nonsense.  It seems that is the terrain in which we currently sit. Time to find bigger boots to wear because the BS is only going to get thicker from here... 

[Jan]

You made this up.  Your lies render you a sad, pathetic joke. Neither Radcliffe nor anyone else has EVER claimed anything was delivered to WHF because it was out of stock at the time he made his purchase.  You have no evidentiary basis for such a claim you simply made it up.  This is one of the reasons why Jeremy kicked you to the curb you simply make things up and in the process he looks bad because the lies being made up are for his benefit so it makes it look like he put you up to it. Obvious lies do not help Jeremy they simply hurt your credibility.  I suppose at some point one hits rock bottom and has no credibility left to lose so has nothing to lose in continuing to make up nonsense.  It seems that is the terrain in which we currently sit. Time to find bigger boots to wear because the BS is only going to get thicker from here...

You talk BS as well - you have no idea why jb and mt fell out. You are making assumptions.

[mike tesko]

Jeremy told me personally during one of our many in depth discussions that on the 24th November 1984, that he went along to Radcliffes to purchase the rifle, a parker hale silencer and ammunition. When they got there, the silencer was not in stock, so it was arranged to order it and deliver everything a week later. The purchased items were delivered to whf a week later on the 30th August 1985...

[scipio_usmc]

You talk BS as well - you have no idea why jb and mt fell out. You are making assumptions.

It is easy to see why Jeremy had problems with you.

1) You posted actual documents that Jeremy didn't want released because his campaign team likes to lie about what is in those documents and by posting them their lies were exposed.

2) You make up absurd things that harm his name because the lies are made on his behalf and worse many of the lies you tell are refuted by the very documents that were publicly released.

This renders you a liability not an asset.

[mike tesko]

Jeremy told me personally during one of our many in depth discussions that on the 24th November 1984, that he went along to Radcliffes to purchase the rifle, a parker hale silencer and ammunition. When they got there, the silencer was not in stock, so it was arranged to order it and deliver everything a week later. The purchased items were delivered to whf a week later on the 30th August 1985...

Anyone who has any doubts about what I am saying, why don't you write directly to Jeremy Bamber and ask him, if what I am reporting is accurately spoken about by me...

[scipio_usmc]

Jeremy told me personally during one of our many in depth discussions that on the 24th November 1984, that he went along to Radcliffes to purchase the rifle, a parker hale silencer and ammunition. When they got there, the silencer was not in stock, so it was arranged to order it and deliver everything a week later. The purchased items were delivered to whf a week later on the 30th August 1985...

Even if Jeremy made this claim it would not be credible but I don't believe he did make this claim to you.  You lie more than Jeremy does and that is pretty amazing because his lies were to avoid liability/get out of jail.  You lie just for attention...

[mike tesko]

Anyone remotely interested in the truth - go look at the two diagrams in the two General Examination records, dated, 13th August 1985, and the 25th September 1985, and tell me that these two diagrams are of the same parker hale silencer, or two different ones?

[scipio_usmc]

Anyone who has any doubts about what I am saying, why don't you write directly to Jeremy Bamber and ask him, if what I am reporting is accurately spoken about by me...

Someone else can write to his to see if he admits to telling such to you.  Even if he did claim such it would not be a credible claim that he had to order a new batch of moderators from Parker hale and in the meantime Parker-Hale still had a supply of 17 baffled moderators to sell anyway.  They didn't stop making them until sometime in November 1984. The 17 baffled supply wasn't instantly shipped out the same day it was produced.  They would be shipped out weeks or even months after being manufactured.  Old supply is totally exhausted before they start shipping new supply.

Jeremy's team determined the moderator would have 17 baffles and thus never made any legal challenge that the 17 baffled moderator wasn't Nevill's. So that means he didn't tell any story to them about getting a brand new 14 baffle one.  So that means either he lied to you or you lied to us.  Either way it falls far short of establish the moderator purchased by Nevill had 14 baffles.