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Offline lookout

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I understand Mike, he is defending someone he thinks is innocent, but what on earth are all of you people doing charachter assassinating Jeremy Bamber who is already behind bars with the harshest sentence possible.
What is it about?







Agreed,Alias. All Scipios' Sermons about a man,who he knows to be 100% guilty ?? What's that about ?

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Agreed,Alias. All Scipios' Sermons about a man,who he knows to be 100% guilty ?? What's that about ?
I agree it all seems pretty pointless to me, think maybe scipio thinks he has a mission to educate and explain where all we 'thickos' are going wrong  ;D

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I agree it all seems pretty pointless to me, think maybe scipio thinks he has a mission to educate and explain where all we 'thickos' are going wrong  ;D





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Police are not always honest, trustworthy, or innocent from accusations of brutality:-
« Last Edit: April 12, 2015, 12:51:PM by mike tesko »
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I agree it all seems pretty pointless to me, think maybe scipio thinks he has a mission to educate and explain where all we 'thickos' are going wrong  ;D

Since you see it as pointless, does that mean if you were ever to believe or Bambers guilt you would leave the forum?

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I understand Mike, he is defending someone he thinks is innocent, but what on earth are all of you people doing charachter assassinating Jeremy Bamber who is already behind bars with the harshest sentence possible.
What is it about?

I think his character was assassinated long before this forum was ever even thought of. That happened the day he was convicted of killing 5 people. However, it's not about assassinating anyone's character it's about debating his claims of innocence. If he ever confesses, then there will be nothing left to debate - until that day ........

You ask this question on a regular basis - now you know.
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I understand Mike, he is defending someone he thinks is innocent, but what on earth are all of you people doing charachter assassinating Jeremy Bamber who is already behind bars with the harshest sentence possible.
What is it about?

Jeremy is a convicted murderer.  His character was ruined by the actions he was convicted of doing.  Posting accurately about the crimes including the locations where the police were and what they observed is an attempt at accuracy.

In contrast Mike intentionally twists and distorts to try to pretend that various absurd things happened to pretend Jeremy is innocent.  Making up things because he wants to pretend Jeremy is innocent but can't find anything valid to raise is not something admirable it is underhanded.
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Offline mike tesko

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Jeremy is a convicted murderer.  His character was ruined by the actions he was convicted of doing.  Posting accurately about the crimes including the locations where the police were and what they observed is an attempt at accuracy.

In contrast Mike intentionally twists and distorts to try to pretend that various absurd things happened to pretend Jeremy is innocent.  Making up things because he wants to pretend Jeremy is innocent but can't find anything valid to raise is not something admirable it is underhanded.

Why was there two differently weighted PV/20 bullets, associated with the non fatal shot into and across Sheila Caffells throat. one weighing (1.7114579g - or 26.46 grain), and the other weighing (1.544158g - or 23.83 grain)?
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So, which was the real PV/20 bullet removed from Sheila's neck, by the pathologist, Peter Venezis, during autopsy performed on the afternoon of the 7th August 1985?

She could not have been shot across the neck by both of these bullets, so lets have your explanation for how this significant discrepancy occurred, how could the very same bullet (PV/20) have two different weights?
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So, which was the real PV/20 bullet removed from Sheila's neck, by the pathologist, Peter Venezis, during autopsy performed on the afternoon of the 7th August 1985?

She could not have been shot across the neck by both of these bullets, so lets have your explanation for how this significant discrepancy occurred, how could the very same bullet (PV/20) have two different weights?

I just can't imagine any explanation to account from either a 10% loss, or gain in weight, between both versions of the same bullet (PV/20)...

(a) - Bullet PV/20 - 1.714579g
(b) - Bullet PV/20 - 1.544158g

Difference                  .170411g
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Which of the two bullet cases (DRH/1, DRH/2) belonged to the three bullets associated with the shooting of Sheila Caffell?
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I am really very interested in knowing, which of the two bullet cases, (either DRH/1, or DRH/2) belonged to the two differently weighted PV/20 bullets? I mean, its impossible for these two toally different bullets to have belonged to the same individual cartridge, so prey tell Mr Tesko' if you know, exactly what the true explanation is for this paradox?

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(1) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p_1QSUsbsM
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Why was there two differently weighted PV/20 bullets, associated with the non fatal shot into and across Sheila Caffells throat. one weighing (1.7114579g - or 26.46 grain), and the other weighing (1.544158g - or 23.83 grain)?

Your allegation is that the weight was screwed up by the lab and that someone else weighing it got a different weight. If so it was screwed up only a little not by any amount that matters.  PV/20 matches the shape in the xray and was definitely fired by the Anschutz.  All 25 shots were definitely fired by the Anshutz.
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Which of the two bullet cases (DRH/1, DRH/2) belonged to the three bullets associated with the shooting of Sheila Caffell?

There were only 2 bullets.  Saying PV/20 was misweighed by the lab means nothing- it's exact weight is not importan.  There was only 1 PV/20 bullet, it was shaped like in the xray and had rifling marks proving it was fired by the Anschutz in addition to the casing proving it was fired by the Anschutz.  The difference in weight is slight and it makes no difference at all which is the correct weight.  You are trying to make something out of nothing.   
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Your allegation is that the weight was screwed up by the lab and that someone else weighing it got a different weight. If so it was screwed up only a little not by any amount that matters.  PV/20 matches the shape in the xray and was definitely fired by the Anschutz.  All 25 shots were definitely fired by the Anshutz.

WRONG AGAIN, because PC Bird photographed all 25 bullets including one version of PV/20, and Major Mead photographed the other version of PV/20 in May 1986. The fact of the matter is, that the bullet (PV/20) photographed by Major Mead in May 1986, was probably the same damaged bullet x-rayed inside Sheila's throat pre-autopsy, but the one matched to the anshuzt rifle by the ballistics expert, Malcolm Fletcher, weighing 1.544158 was definitely not...
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