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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #225 on: April 08, 2015, 10:36:PM »
He didn't wipe it properly. It's not the only mistake he made.

How could a match head sized blob of jam-like blood have escaped him?

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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #226 on: April 08, 2015, 10:41:PM »
How could a match head sized blob of jam-like blood have escaped him?

He figured no one would even look for it let alone would be able to match the blood to Sheila. That was the whole purpose of telling his bogus story about leaving the gun out sans moderator and scope. 
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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #227 on: April 08, 2015, 10:41:PM »
How could a match head sized blob of jam-like blood have escaped him?

Thought it was tiny back splatter drops inside the silencer baffles.

Anyway he did miss it.
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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #228 on: April 08, 2015, 10:47:PM »
How could a match head sized blob of jam-like blood have escaped him?
How could a match sized blob of jam like blood survive exposed to the air? We know it would have turned dark brown/black and disintegrated in 24 hours therefore someone was imagining things imo.

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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #229 on: April 08, 2015, 10:47:PM »
I'm not deliberately mixing up anything.

Stan Jones gave AE the keys. Jeremy was in Amsterdam, buying Cannabis. Anyway Jeremy said he was never going to go back inside WHF. Until his bathroom window entrance.

oh dear - does that mean Anne was telling lies in her statement?

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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #230 on: April 08, 2015, 10:48:PM »
Putting it in a box, then hiding it is even more puzzling. A deliberate, calculated act where he puts a bloodied silencer with paint and hair to boot in a box, but does not think about wiping it clean - at least on the outside. A very strange thing to do.

Not going to waste my breath on the second part of your post.
Very strange behaviour, Alias, difficult to believe!

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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #231 on: April 08, 2015, 10:51:PM »
He figured no one would even look for it let alone would be able to match the blood to Sheila. That was the whole purpose of telling his bogus story about leaving the gun out sans moderator and scope.

How did the blood of three people on the same baffle?  What are the chances of that?

Was the whole purpose of telling the police he had received a call from his father also bogus? Did he figure no one would find out?....Yet he states clearly to Jones why don't you trace the call....Are you saying that he knew that the call could not be traced? No google in those days....Nor did anyone prove he had made enquires in order to establish that.

Such a planned crime was it not?  :-\ :-\ :-\

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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #232 on: April 08, 2015, 10:53:PM »
How could a match sized blob of jam like blood survive exposed to the air? We know it would have turned dark brown/black and disintegrated in 24 hours therefore someone was imagining things imo.

That is the next inevitable question. That jam-like blob of blood. Logically it couldn´t have been there, but someone claimed it was.

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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #233 on: April 08, 2015, 10:54:PM »
How could a match sized blob of jam like blood survive exposed to the air? We know it would have turned dark brown/black and disintegrated in 24 hours therefore someone was imagining things imo.

Hi Maggie

I don't think there is any reference/forensic or documentation about the blob, is there?...it appears to have disappeared... :-\

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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #234 on: April 08, 2015, 10:54:PM »
How did the blood of three people on the same baffle?  What are the chances of that?

Was the whole purpose of telling the police he had received a call from his father also bogus? Did he figure no one would find out?....Yet he states clearly to Jones why don't you trace the call....Are you saying that he knew that the call could not be traced? No google in those days....Nor did anyone prove he had made enquires in order to establish that.

Such a planned crime was it not?  :-\ :-\ :-\
So well planned and carried out, it must have taken him a year to plan it..... not! More like something done on the spur of the moment it was so very badly thought out.

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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #235 on: April 08, 2015, 10:58:PM »
Hi Maggie

I don't think there is any reference/forensic or documentation about the blob, is there?...it appears to have disappeared... :-\
AE told us about the 'blob' in her statement didn't she? No mention of blob or hair from the police or prosecution though, I agree.

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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #236 on: April 08, 2015, 11:05:PM »
So well planned and carried out, it must have taken him a year to plan it..... not! More like something done on the spur of the moment it was so very badly thought out.

Ha! It was so planned out Maggie that he could not remember the sequence of the telephone calls....

It matters not whether he called Julie first or second before he called the police...its irrelevant.

What does matter though is that he called Julie before he had a call from his father....Its debatable and I still think that they had the technology to prove it one way or the other, but did not pursue it.....

Tracing calls and itemized calls were piloted in many Counties at the time, so the technology was already there....I'm spinning hahaha.... ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #237 on: April 08, 2015, 11:06:PM »
How did the blood of three people on the same baffle?  What are the chances of that?

Was the whole purpose of telling the police he had received a call from his father also bogus? Did he figure no one would find out?....Yet he states clearly to Jones why don't you trace the call....Are you saying that he knew that the call could not be traced? No google in those days....Nor did anyone prove he had made enquires in order to establish that.

Such a planned crime was it not?  :-\ :-\ :-\

How do you know what research he did or didn't do?  ???

Perhaps he made a call from WHF to his house in Goldhanger, which was picked up by the answer phone, which he later deleted. Perhaps he erroneously thought the police COULD trace a call?

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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #238 on: April 08, 2015, 11:08:PM »
According to AE's statement (taken between 8th and 13th Sept) she asked Jeremy why he didn't go to WHF as allegedly requested by Nevill's phone call - Jeremy replied that he was frightened that the call may have been a trick in order to lure him to the farm so Sheila could 'shoot him too'. At this point (after the supposed call from Nevill) Jeremy isn't supposed to know that anyone had been shot!

This has obviously come up before, but it is a very good point.

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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #239 on: April 08, 2015, 11:16:PM »
Ha! It was so planned out Maggie that he could not remember the sequence of the telephone calls....

It matters not whether he called Julie first or second before he called the police...its irrelevant.

What does matter though is that he called Julie before he had a call from his father....Its debatable and I still think that they had the technology to prove it one way or the other, but did not pursue it.....

Tracing calls and itemized calls were piloted in many Counties at the time, so the technology was already there....I'm spinning hahaha.... ;D ;D ;D ;D

Well who knows?

JB gave two accounts.

1. He phoned Julie first and said he couldn't talk for long because he needed to call the police.
2. He phoned Julie after the police because he was pissed at the police.

 ???

Which is it? Which sounds better.  ::)