Is Jeremy Bamber a Psychopath?

[Stephanie]

Here a self confessed psychopath writes about 'loneliness' http://www.psychopathicwritings.com/2013/02/can-psychopaths-feel-loneliness.html

[Stephanie]

"Being on the receiving end of a person who lacks empathy shows a reality to the human condition that we don't want to believe exists. Watching people side with the abuser, disbelieve you and even worse, bully and smear you along with the narcissist (or disordered individual) is highly traumatic and isolating. It's within our human nature or socialisation to side with the crowd. The abuser gains momentum by getting to the crowd earlier and then playing up to them which is their perverse talent."


All part of the Narcissists/disordered individuals cycle of abuse - inflicting damage to their target/victims on the sly with preemptive attacks of their integrity while still seducing the target/victim into believing that they (the Narcissist/disordered individual) loves them so completely. It is basically setting them up for the devaluation and discard with the support of minions to back the Narcissist/disordered individual up.

[Stephanie]

"Being on the receiving end of a person who lacks empathy shows a reality to the human condition that we don't want to believe exists. Watching people side with the abuser, disbelieve you and even worse, bully and smear you along with the narcissist (or disordered individual) is highly traumatic and isolating. It's within our human nature or socialisation to side with the crowd. The abuser gains momentum by getting to the crowd earlier and then playing up to them which is their perverse talent."


All part of the Narcissists/disordered individuals cycle of abuse - inflicting damage to their target/victims on the sly with preemptive attacks of their integrity while still seducing the target/victim into believing that they (the Narcissist/disordered individual) loves them so completely. It is basically setting them up for the devaluation and discard with the support of minions to back the Narcissist/disordered individual up.

It is quite apparent to me the above applies to JB! And equally applies to other members of society.

[Stephanie]

"Compared to, say, ten years ago, a lot of people today are aware of and talking about psychopaths. On the one hand this is encouraging, but on the other, it's a little troubling. It is heartening to see awareness of psychopathy breach the mainstream frequency fence here and there, but the signal-to-noise ratio, as with all knowledge relevant to the growth and survival of decent human beings, remains high on the 'noise' side. We see ridiculous studies in the news portraying psychopaths as curable and articles making the rounds about how not having a Facebook account may indicate that someone is a psychopath. We've also seen Twitter being touted as a tool for 'spotting psychopaths' and, just today, news that the US justice system is considering acceptance of biological evidence that someone is a genetic psychopath in court with a view to using it to mitigate the sentences of criminal offenders. The reasoning being that psychopaths can't help being psychopaths, that they lack free will and therefore they bear diminished responsibility for their crimes.

"Beware of anyone stating with absolute certainty that psychopaths can be 'spotted'. Pathological symptoms and behaviours can be seen and called out for what they are, but they may yet be the learned strategies of a normal person who has been induced into believing that it is the only way to survive growing up in a pathological world.

http://www.sott.net/article/249840-From-Internet-Troll-to-Psychopathy-Expert-The-Con-Artistry-of-Thomas-Sheridan

[lookout]

 Psychopathy can be inherited,or it can be detected in early childhood through behavioural problems brought on by environmental influences while a child is vulnerable. The child remains to be anti-social throughout childhood and if caught early enough it can be treated like any other emotional disorder.

Any behaviour is influenced by multiple genes and a combination of genes results and increases the vulnerability to a disorder.
Not all behavioural problems in children lead to psychopathy,except that anti-social behaviour was only strongly inherited in psychopathic children.

Have we got any proof/information that Jeremy was a difficult child ?

[Stephanie]

Psychopathy can be inherited,or it can be detected in early childhood through behavioural problems brought on by environmental influences while a child is vulnerable. The child remains to be anti-social throughout childhood and if caught early enough it can be treated like any other emotional disorder.

Any behaviour is influenced by multiple genes and a combination of genes results and increases the vulnerability to a disorder.
Not all behavioural problems in children lead to psychopathy,except that anti-social behaviour was only strongly inherited in psychopathic children.

Have we got any proof/information that Jeremy was a difficult child ?

If you look back on other threads - it's all there. It escalated into him committing crime... Unless you feel his crimes prior to the murders should be dismissed due to him 'just being foolish?'

[lookout]

If you look back on other threads - it's all there. It escalated into him committing crime... Unless you feel his crimes prior to the murders should be dismissed due to him 'just being foolish?'

JB was" just being foolish " and " devil may care " when he " confessed his theft crime " to his father,but it was by no means an introduction to start murdering people as well.
 He hadn't shown the twins any fear nor recklessness when showing them the tractor from inside the cab of the machine,or drove it in a manner to scare them. JB wasn't the reason why those children didn't want to visit WHF.
Much less has been made of the crimes that JM did.

[Jane]

JB was" just being foolish " and " devil may care " when he " confessed his theft crime " to his father,but it was by no means an introduction to start murdering people as well.
 He hadn't shown the twins any fear nor recklessness when showing them the tractor from inside the cab of the machine,or drove it in a manner to scare them. JB wasn't the reason why those children didn't want to visit WHF.
Much less has been made of the crimes that JM did.

I seem to recall being scared of/disliking whiskered elderly relatives. I feel certain that none of them committed murders. It may be that JM's crimes have taken out of proportion. It seems to me they could fall into the same category in which you place Jeremy's.

[lookout]

I seem to recall being scared of/disliking whiskered elderly relatives. I feel certain that none of them committed murders. It may be that JM's crimes have taken out of proportion. It seems to me they could fall into the same category in which you place Jeremy's.

" Whiskered elderly relatives "-------and that was just the women. !

Joking aside,we knew why the twins didn't like their WHF visits and it was nothing to do with the above,as it's been posted often enough. Understandable when it doesn't fit a personal scenario.!

A crime is a crime regardless of how " out of proportion " it would seem to be. It's still shameful as maybe that's what Neville was trying to say to BW when he mentioned about " bringing up his children,etc etc and that's how you're repaid " .

[Caroline]

JB was" just being foolish " and " devil may care " when he " confessed his theft crime " to his father,but it was by no means an introduction to start murdering people as well.
 He hadn't shown the twins any fear nor recklessness when showing them the tractor from inside the cab of the machine,or drove it in a manner to scare them. JB wasn't the reason why those children didn't want to visit WHF.
Much less has been made of the crimes that JM did.

She didn't kill anyone.

[lookout]

She didn't kill anyone.

Neither did Jeremy---------but carry on convincing yourself,you'll be sorry.

[Jane]

Neither did Jeremy---------but carry on convincing yourself,you'll be sorry.

Sounds like you're suggesting handbags at dawn. Don't think Caroline will be shaking her shoes any time soon.

[Caroline]

Neither did Jeremy---------but carry on convincing yourself,you'll be sorry.

Sorry about what?

[Caroline]

Sounds like you're suggesting handbags at dawn. Don't think Caroline will be shaking her shoes any time soon.

You're right Jane, not shaking in my shoes but I'm laughing in my lounge 

[lookout]

Sounds like you're suggesting handbags at dawn. Don't think Caroline will be shaking her shoes any time soon.

I'm not suggesting anything of the sort. What makes you say things like that ?