Who Pays?

[Jan]

I don't see how anyone can make excuses - because we have only heard one side of the story. Why should we assume what his side of the story is?

It is a bit like other mud slinging - it is very easy when the other side can not answer at all . Unless of course someone asks him.

[David1819]

So you would give just any old con a monthly allowance? Or from his side, ask anyone for £4,000.00, to help in his campaign. The dynamics are easy to work out given his expectation of receiving four grand no questions asked - I can't find any excuse for people defending his behaviour over this. There is no excuse even if you think he's innocent.

From what I read about Jeremy, he seems to have a similar personality to me    I have upset many people but I never mean to do so and don't realise until someone tells me.

[maggie]

Perhaps people want to still slate her, because that's better than admitting they were wrong in the first place and should be ashamed for ganging up like a pack of vultures in the first place in order to make even more Bamber excuses? 

How can people judge  if they only know  half a story?

[guest154]

From what I read about Jeremy, he seems to have a similar personality to me    I have upset many people but I never mean to do so and don't realise until someone tells me.

Hopefully not too similar...

How can people judge  if they only know  half a story?

Supporters seemed to do just that with their replies/posts about Daisy. 

[Jane]

Its  not easy to discuss this in public without acknowledging who Daisy is and I don't believe that can be acceptable.

If you go back to the first(?) page of the "Daisy" thread, when her fall out with Jeremy was initially discussed, my first post said that I'd like to hear both sides of the story.

[Jan]

We don't need to know 'who' she is at all and have no right to. I know that what she said is true - I'll leave others to make yet even more excuses for Jeremy Bamber.

Caroline you were one of his staunchest supporters and  did exactly what you are accusing others of doing. Its great for you that you have "seen the light" and I think you will find that most people , even if he is innocent do not think he is a saint.

[susan]

David I must remember not to disagree with you

[guest2181]

Caroline you were one of his staunchest supporters and  did exactly what you are accusing others of doing. Its great for you that you have "seen the light" and I think you will find that most people , even if he is innocent do not think he is a saint.

Fair point.

[Jan]

From what I read about Jeremy, he seems to have a similar personality to me    I have upset many people but I never mean to do so and don't realise until someone tells me.

We also have to remember it is considered perfectly acceptable to publicly accuse him of death threats apparently even when he has no legal recourse.

[Caroline]

Perhaps people want to still slate her, because that's better than admitting they were wrong in the first place and should be ashamed for ganging up like a pack of vultures in the first place in order to make even more Bamber excuses? 

Possibly! This was someone who was actively trying to help Jeremy, not just sorting through old case notes on an internet forum - someone who had put her money where her mouth was (literally). You would imagine that people would want to support her and at least acknowledge the shoddy treatment she received but then they might have to admit that there's another side to Jeremy!!

[maggie]

Hopefully not too similar...


Supporters seemed to do just that with their replies/posts about Daisy. 

Some probably do and on the other hand some guilters may be biased as well but whatever happened  if JB is innocent it would not be the least surprising if he's a difficult person and even has developed a personality disorder.  If I remember rightly AA said he was not the person he used to be when she knew him back in the early days, wouldn't think 30 years in prison improves many people behaviour.

[Jan]

I am not even sure that in most cases it is even making excuses for Jeremy - it is more looking at the evidence available and the interpretations. A lot of the character assassination is counteracted by for example Jean  the family housekeeper  who never saw any family arguments . Is that an excuse ? Or just looking at peoples statements and motives for their evidence?

Is it an excuse to say a phone call could have happened ( until proven otherwise) ?

Is it an excuse to point out there was no forensics  linking him to the crime?

I could go on.

[guest2181]

From what I understand,  Jeremy Bamber is a thoroughly horrible individual.

[Caroline]

Caroline you were one of his staunchest supporters and  did exactly what you are accusing others of doing. Its great for you that you have "seen the light" and I think you will find that most people , even if he is innocent do not think he is a saint.

Everyone was initially sceptical because it wouldn't have been the first time that people have lied here (nor the last). However, once it was obvious that she was genuine, people still stuck the boot in and there are some here who refuse to hear anything remotely negative about Jeremy.

[Caroline]

We also have to remember it is considered perfectly acceptable to publicly accuse him of death threats apparently even when he has no legal recourse.

Because he's been accused convicted of more than just 'threats'.