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Offline David1819

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« Reply #60 on: March 13, 2015, 06:40:PM »
Why do you keep mentioning drugs? She knew it was being spent on the case - she wanted to know what aspect.

Its possible maybe he owed the dealers inside 4k

Then why did he turn so sour and rude? Withdrawal symptoms!

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« Reply #61 on: March 13, 2015, 06:42:PM »
Drugs?  ;D (thought I would just hoy a random 'drugs' into the mix - seems to be the fashion  ;D ;D).

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« Reply #62 on: March 13, 2015, 06:45:PM »
Its possible maybe he owed the dealers inside 4k

Then why did he turn so sour and rude? Withdrawal symptoms!

I just told you - because she asked what it was for. Mat posted the link to her posts - it would be easier if you read them for yourself.
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« Reply #63 on: March 13, 2015, 06:50:PM »
Its possible maybe he owed the dealers inside 4k

Then why did he turn so sour and rude? Withdrawal symptoms!



He may have believed that he was in control and this person was so much on HIS side that she would do anything for him . Her surprise turn around would have thrown him. It wasn't a situation he was accustomed to, he didn't know how to respond -adults would discuss and hopefully come to compromise, but emotionally, at least, he'd probably never got to be an adult- so he resorted to rude and childish behaviour. Interestingly, those are the behaviours he MAY have used on his parents when THEY questioned his need for money "loans."

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« Reply #64 on: March 13, 2015, 06:57:PM »


He may have believed that he was in control and this person was so much on HIS side that she would do anything for him . Her surprise turn around would have thrown him. It wasn't a situation he was accustomed to, he didn't know how to respond -adults would discuss and hopefully come to compromise, but emotionally, at least, he'd probably never got to be an adult- so he resorted to rude and childish behaviour. Interestingly, those are the behaviours he MAY have used on his parents when THEY questioned his need for money "loans."

Or maybe he thought she didn't trust him and got offended?


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« Reply #65 on: March 13, 2015, 07:05:PM »
Or maybe he thought she didn't trust him and got offended?

Is that normal behaviour for someone relying on public help and donations? Or more akin to a control freak who's nose has been pushed out of joint? She had every right to know where HER £4,000.00 pounds would be spent and he should have been more than willing to sit her down and explain.
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« Reply #66 on: March 13, 2015, 07:08:PM »
David Jeremy had known the woman for years and years why would he think that.

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« Reply #67 on: March 13, 2015, 07:10:PM »
Or maybe he thought she didn't trust him and got offended?


Surely then, after such a close friendship, he could have discussed it with her. Best NOT to show offence to someone who has previously been generous enough to provide one with an allowance, BEFORE finding out if one has real reason to do so, don't you think?

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« Reply #68 on: March 13, 2015, 07:22:PM »

Surely then, after such a close friendship, he could have discussed it with her. Best NOT to show offence to someone who has previously been generous enough to provide one with an allowance, BEFORE finding out if one has real reason to do so, don't you think?

Well I don't think we know allot of the dynamics of the friendship they had and there are two sides to every story. Some people are more easily offended than others I don't think there is need to dig deep into this

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« Reply #69 on: March 13, 2015, 07:39:PM »
Well I don't think we know allot of the dynamics of the friendship they had and there are two sides to every story. Some people are more easily offended than others I don't think there is need to dig deep into this
Do agree with you David

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« Reply #70 on: March 13, 2015, 07:42:PM »
Well I don't think we know allot of the dynamics of the friendship they had and there are two sides to every story. Some people are more easily offended than others I don't think there is need to dig deep into this


Unless we start to look deeply we'll never understand WHY some take offence where others don't. It COULD put us in danger of becoming like Scipio, "who sees no reason to..................." and may rob someone of the opportunity to see the error of their ways ;) ;) ;D

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« Reply #71 on: March 13, 2015, 07:45:PM »

Unless we start to look deeply we'll never understand WHY some take offence where others don't. It COULD put us in danger of becoming like Scipio, "who sees no reason to..................." and may rob someone of the opportunity to see the error of their ways ;) ;) ;D
Its  not easy to discuss this in public without acknowledging who Daisy is and I don't believe that can be acceptable. :-\

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« Reply #72 on: March 13, 2015, 07:51:PM »
Well I don't think we know allot of the dynamics of the friendship they had and there are two sides to every story. Some people are more easily offended than others I don't think there is need to dig deep into this

So you would give just any old con a monthly allowance? Or from his side, ask anyone for £4,000.00, to help in his campaign. The dynamics are easy to work out given his expectation of receiving four grand no questions asked - I can't find any excuse for people defending his behaviour over this. There is no excuse even if you think he's innocent.
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« Reply #73 on: March 13, 2015, 07:54:PM »
Its  not easy to discuss this in public without acknowledging who Daisy is and I don't believe that can be acceptable. :-\

We don't need to know 'who' she is at all and have no right to. I know that what she said is true - I'll leave others to make yet even more excuses for Jeremy Bamber.
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« Reply #74 on: March 13, 2015, 07:57:PM »
We don't need to know 'who' she is at all and have no right to. I know that what she said is true - I'll leave others to make yet even more excuses for Jeremy Bamber.

Perhaps people want to still slate her, because that's better than admitting they were wrong in the first place and should be ashamed for ganging up like a pack of vultures in the first place in order to make even more Bamber excuses?  :-\