What Makes Supporters Believe Jeremy is Innocent?

[Jane]

Not at all. The interpretation can also mean that he won't be brow-beaten by a couple of " know-alls ".

 Showing a willingness to completely cooperate may have been a better bet.

[nugnug]

I don't need to have been there to recognize the attitude, Nugs. The effect it had on others would be down to how they felt about themselves.

sorry what others who are we talking about.

[Steve_uk]

back to Carolines interesting question.
Amongst other things I really do not think someone who had allegedly never been violent and
 for sometime resisted blood sports would contemplate committing such a bloody and horrific crime, anticipate what his own physical and phsycological reaction would be and then plan to stand next to the police a very short time afterwards .

It was a complicated crime with allegedly him having a lot to do such as destroying clothes and shoes/cleaning a bike / climbing out of a window without leaving blood etc etc - working out the phone fiasco , knowing how to fake a suicide enough to convince the police. Working out how to subdue and shoot Sheila without her putting her hands up and fighting back ( that would have been a giveaway) .He had to use the right words to convince the police not to go in ( when you would have thought they would want to save the children)

This is only one of many reasons I have - I am not even sure he was bright enough to even start the planning.

That's interesting Jan,but he had enough time to plan the scheme as he furrowed the gravelly soil by day and brooded back at Bourtree Cottage of an evening. I think he must have been in a drug-induced state that he really doesn't recall the incident(unlike David Bain whom you can see below, Of course there are thousands of documents relating to the case which still haven't seen the light of day and it must feel to the Defence barristers as if they are fighting for Jeremy with one hand tied behind their backs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORGyLLFCIsk

[lookout]

 Showing a willingness to completely cooperate may have been a better bet.

Shall we just say that he was over-confident ?

[guest2181]

in other words he looks like anyone who was about to face trial for murder would do.

How would someone look if they had, with premeditation just murdered five members of their family for financial gain. Then attempted to put blame on one of his victims, until he was found out, and was soon to go to court charged with their murders?

Either way, to try and use his expressions, frozen in time, in photographs, to attempt to add weight to your own beliefs regarding his guilt or innocence ........ is ....... well ..... it's a bit lame isn't it? 

[nugnug]

 Showing a willingness to completely cooperate may have been a better bet.

well you can look it at it another way youve just lost your parents your stil upset about it then you have somone acuse you of killing them who wont belive you say you dident arnt you going to get just a tiny bit anoyed about that.

[Alias]

I think that's a bit of a sweeping statement.

It may apply to some though.

Just wondering - is that sweeping?
A case has been proven - thirty years ago. Still people use a lot of time and effort to prove it all over again. Whatever for?

[nugnug]

How would someone look if they had, with premeditation just murdered five members of their family for financial gain. Then attempted to put blame on one of his victims, until he was found out, and was soon to go to court charged with their murders?

Either way, to try and use his expressions, frozen in time, in photographs, to attempt to add weight to your own beliefs regarding his guilt or innocence ........ is ....... well ..... it's a bit lame isn't it? 

regardles of guilt or innonce nobody faceing trial for murder is going to look happy anyones going to look a tiny bit frightend.

[Steve_uk]

How would someone look if they had, with premeditation just murdered five members of their family for financial gain. Then attempted to put blame on one of his victims, until he was found out, and was soon to go to court charged with their murders?

Either way, to try and use his expressions, frozen in time, in photographs, to attempt to add weight to your own beliefs regarding his guilt or innocence ........ is ....... well ..... it's a bit lame isn't it? 

I think it came as an intense relief when the deed was done,Jeremy free at last from the pressure of performing which had built up since his Gresham days and which he sensed had been all in vain when he considered his lowly position in the workforce and could henceforth distance himself from the whole of his past life,keeping no mementoes as he reasoned like David Bain that he would be better off somehow without them all.

[Jane]

sorry what others who are we talking about.

Those who were there at the time, Nugs.

[Steve_uk]

well you can look it at it another way youve just lost your parents your stil upset about it then you have somone acuse you of killing them who wont belive you say you dident arnt you going to get just a tiny bit anoyed about that.

But he was always rather passive in that regard I thought.

[lookout]

Even so,it must feel a bit of a bummer going to prison after EP had bungled a most serious case,by not even taking the trouble to have set up a proper investigation which EP were given a phrase to match,namely called " Doing A Bamber ". The shame of it.

[guest2181]

Just wondering - is that sweeping?
A case has been proven - thirty years ago. Still people use a lot of time and effort to prove it all over again. Whatever for?

Perhaps, just perhaps, this is run of the mill Internet forum, where people with an interest in murder cases, come together to discuss, argue and share opinions with each other about their views. A hobby, a pass time maybe?

[Caroline]

Just wondering - is that sweeping?
A case has been proven - thirty years ago. Still people use a lot of time and effort to prove it all over again. Whatever for?

Because they're interested in the case. People still debate the moon landings or who shot JFK.

[Jane]

well you can look it at it another way youve just lost your parents your stil upset about it then you have somone acuse you of killing them who wont belive you say you dident arnt you going to get just a tiny bit anoyed about that.

If he had demonstrated how upset he was it may have been preferable to the behaviours he adopted. Whatever he may have FELT he certainly didn't give the impression of a grieving son.