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« Reply #3060 on: October 07, 2023, 12:40:PM »
I hope Hamas remember that in Gaza.
Yes i get what your saying Steve, but the worrying state of affairs is, no Super Power would have to send any troops in to any Battle now days.  Hopefully it will never come to that, but a Super Power Country will only take so much.

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« Reply #3061 on: October 07, 2023, 01:15:PM »
I hope Hamas remember that in Gaza.
I'm surprissed they was allowed to do such Damage Steve, i thought Israel had super air defences and would have been on the alert for such dangers, they've been caught with their pants down.

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« Reply #3062 on: October 07, 2023, 01:20:PM »
I'm surprissed they was allowed to do such Damage Steve, i thought Israel had super air defences and would have been on the alert for such dangers, they've been caught with their pants down.
I wonder how Jeremy Corburn would have adressed the situation, this from Keir Starmer

Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer said he 'utterly condemned' the attacks, adding: 'There is no justification for this act of terror which is being perpetrated by those who seek to undermine any chance for future peace in the region. Israel has a right to defend herself.'

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« Reply #3063 on: October 07, 2023, 01:34:PM »
I wonder how Jeremy Corburn would have adressed the situation, this from Keir Starmer

Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer said he 'utterly condemned' the attacks, adding: 'There is no justification for this act of terror which is being perpetrated by those who seek to undermine any chance for future peace in the region. Israel has a right to defend herself.'

Par for the course for Starmer.  Did you see the video about him on Double Down News.

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« Reply #3064 on: October 07, 2023, 01:39:PM »
Par for the course for Starmer.  Did you see the video about him on Double Down News.
No i haven't Roch, i personaly think he's full of'sh  IT.

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« Reply #3065 on: October 07, 2023, 01:50:PM »
Yes i get what your saying Steve, but the worrying state of affairs is, no Super Power would have to send any troops in to any Battle now days.  Hopefully it will never come to that, but a Super Power Country will only take so much.
Israel is a regional superpower. https://youtu.be/QRiya8iEaOs

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« Reply #3066 on: October 07, 2023, 01:58:PM »

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« Reply #3067 on: October 07, 2023, 02:08:PM »
Israel is a regional superpower. https://youtu.be/QRiya8iEaOs
Oh i know, they have Nuclear Steve, it's worrying and hopefully it will not be used, just like Russia has shown restrain in that field of Battle.
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« Reply #3068 on: October 07, 2023, 02:10:PM »
The Hamas thing is a bit strange. Maybe Israel did know something was afoot, but decided to let it happen. Decided to let it happen, in the knowledge that extremely strong action could be taken, on the back of international empathy, against Palestine.

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« Reply #3069 on: October 07, 2023, 02:15:PM »
The Hamas thing is a bit strange. Maybe Israel did know something was afoot, but decided to let it happen. Decided to let it happen, in the knowledge that extremely strong action could be taken, on the back of international empathy, against Palestine.
Makes me wonder too Roch, they was supposed to have one of  the best air defence's out? The Iron Drome?

Israel deploys a layered air and missile defense architecture built to counter a wide variety of air and missile threats emanating from state and non-state regional adversaries. This threat spectrum includes rockets, mortars, drones, ballistic missiles, and cruise missiles. Reflecting this diverse set of threats, Israel today deploys a tiered missile defense architecture. Iron Dome

Not good enough to stop Paragliders though, looks like they travelled deep into Israel territory as well?

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« Reply #3070 on: October 07, 2023, 02:18:PM »
Makes me wonder too Roch, they was supposed to have one of  the best air defence's out? The Iron Drome?

Israel deploys a layered air and missile defense architecture built to counter a wide variety of air and missile threats emanating from state and non-state regional adversaries. This threat spectrum includes rockets, mortars, drones, ballistic missiles, and cruise missiles. Reflecting this diverse set of threats, Israel today deploys a tiered missile defense architecture. Iron Dome

Not good enough to stop Paragliders though, looks like they travelled deep into Israel territory as well?

It's very strange HB.  I expect we'll see horrific levels of retaliation.

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« Reply #3071 on: October 07, 2023, 02:18:PM »
The Hamas thing is a bit strange. Maybe Israel did know something was afoot, but decided to let it happen. Decided to let it happen, in the knowledge that extremely strong action could be taken, on the back of international empathy, against Palestine.
Israeli ambassador to Germany sees Iran behind Hamas attacks

"It is clear to us that Iran is behind this," the ambassador said. Iran is trying everything to bring the region into a state of war, he added.

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« Reply #3072 on: October 07, 2023, 02:23:PM »
It clearly was a security failure, unless it was allowed to happen to make good to esculate and justify strong action from themselves?

Israel has suffered an “enormous security failure” with attacks by Palestinian militants from the Gaza Strip.

Defence expert Con Coughlin told GB News that Israel Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu faces an “enormous challenge” after he stated “we are at war”.

The country’s military have begun their response by striking targets in Gaza after the attack which was branded “horrific” by UK Foreign Secretary James Cleverly.

The Daily Telegraph’s defence editor Con Coughlin spoke on the “serious” action by Hamas, warning Israeli will be issuing a heavy-handed response.

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« Reply #3073 on: October 07, 2023, 02:28:PM »
The Hamas thing is a bit strange. Maybe Israel did know something was afoot, but decided to let it happen. Decided to let it happen, in the knowledge that extremely strong action could be taken, on the back of international empathy, against Palestine.
I think your Spot on Roch, they have known about these threats for decades, yet they allow Paragliders deep into their own Country.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/10/07/12/76274815-12604497-image-a-93_1696678313596.jpg

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« Reply #3074 on: October 07, 2023, 02:47:PM »
Peter Oborne on Kier Starmer

https://www.doubledown.news/watch/2023/september/25/exposed-keir-starmer-liar-murdochs-man-candidate-mi5-peter-oborne
Labour did some good things 1997-2001: Minimum Wage, NHS investment, Freedom of Information Act. But they overspent and took us into the Iraq war.