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Offline David1819

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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #2730 on: April 07, 2023, 05:47:PM »

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« Reply #2731 on: April 07, 2023, 11:41:PM »
The US is the lead member of NATO, which has never made incursions into Russian territory.

So if NATO relinquish it's presence in the Ukraine, McDonalds will be able to re-open in Moscow and Russia can then re-continue it's embrace of U.S. imperialism.
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« Reply #2732 on: April 08, 2023, 07:42:PM »
So if NATO relinquish it's presence in the Ukraine, McDonalds will be able to re-open in Moscow and Russia can then re-continue it's embrace of U.S. imperialism.
Angela Merkel blocked Ukraine entering NATO in 2008. She thought she had a special relationship with Putin, which is also why she shut nuclear plants, believing in cheap Russian gas.

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« Reply #2733 on: April 08, 2023, 11:54:PM »
Angela Merkel blocked Ukraine entering NATO in 2008. She thought she had a special relationship with Putin, which is also why she shut nuclear plants, believing in cheap Russian gas.
    Angela Merkel had such a special relationship with Putin that she lied to the Russians for over 8 years over the Minsk accords. This has been openly admitted. It is the Net Zero and idiotic non-energy policies of the Western economies that are to blame for their crashing economies. That and sanctioning their most reliable provider of cheap energy. German economic woes are nothing to do with Putin or Russia. 
     What is wrong with "the belief in cheap Russian gas"? Germany now are facing massive inflation, soaring energy costs, industries leaving because of the high energy prices making them uncompetitive. This is because they no longer have access to "cheap Russian gas" because they refuse to buy it because of their own self defeating sanctions. Their supposed government seem uninterested in which so-called ally blew up their infrastructure, making sure that "cheap Russian gas" couldn't become available should Germany see the light and "make nice" with Russia.
     The "cheap Russian gas" is now making its way to more reliable countries. This is all of Germany's own doing, albeit doing the bidding of their US masters.

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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #2734 on: April 10, 2023, 06:37:AM »
Attitude of Ukrainians towards foreign countries.


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« Reply #2735 on: April 10, 2023, 10:40:AM »
Attitude of Ukrainians towards foreign countries.



If you tried to ask the same question to UK or USA, I expect the grey areas would be the biggest. Our two populations are not the most geopolitically astute David.

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« Reply #2736 on: April 10, 2023, 03:55:PM »
If you tried to ask the same question to UK or USA, I expect the grey areas would be the biggest. Our two populations are not the most geopolitically astute David.


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« Reply #2738 on: April 11, 2023, 08:48:PM »
I was probably labelled a conspiritard for suggesting this near the beginning of the conflict.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65245065


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« Reply #2739 on: April 12, 2023, 08:20:AM »
There is a video circulating of Russian mercenaries beheading a Ukrainian soldier ISIS-style.

https://twitter.com/michaeldweiss/status/1645926063380508673

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« Reply #2740 on: April 13, 2023, 08:56:PM »
Can anyone explain why all the magnificent architecture in St. Petersburg and Moscow is still untouched by artillery fire from Ukraine ? Ukraine is flattened in parts.

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« Reply #2741 on: April 13, 2023, 09:09:PM »
Can anyone explain why all the magnificent architecture in St. Petersburg and Moscow is still untouched by artillery fire from Ukraine ? Ukraine is flattened in parts.
I suppose because once escalated Russia would use its nuclear arsenal on Kiev.

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« Reply #2742 on: April 13, 2023, 09:46:PM »
I suppose because once escalated Russia would use its nuclear arsenal on Kiev.





Kiev would be no match for the same on the Kremlin though. Even their stations are like palaces inside. Would Putin risk his country being reduced to rubble ? I don't think so.
Sanctions haven't worked either, so what goes on ? I don't understand it at all.

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Kiev would be no match for the same on the Kremlin though. Even their stations are like palaces inside. Would Putin risk his country being reduced to rubble ? I don't think so.
Sanctions haven't worked either, so what goes on ? I don't understand it at all.

When I visited Moscow in 1988 I was blown away by how clean and tidy the subway stations were,you turn a corner and see another bronze looking statue of some Russian luminary.