Russia - worrying?

[handymanz]

Donbass is populated by ethnic Russians who want to be part of Russia, this was recently voted for overwhelmingly by those who reside there.

[David1819]

Donbass is populated by ethnic Russians who want to be part of Russia, this was recently voted for overwhelmingly by those who reside there.

You'd have to be extremely naive to believe the results of those "referendums". Independent polling prior to 2014 suggests that less than 20% of eastern Ukrainians were in favour of secession.

https://web.archive.org/web/20140509001422/http://www.pewglobal.org/files/2014/05/Pew-Global-Attitudes-Ukraine-Russia-Report-FINAL-May-8-2014.pdf

Footage showed the streets of Kherson were empty when Russian troops entered. The Ukrainian forces were greeted with cheers when they forced the Russians out. The same population that allegedly voted 85% in favour of joining Russia several months prior. Go figure.

[handymanz]

And during the following 8 years the ethnic Russians residing in the Donbass, were treated like royalty by their Ukrainian rulers.

[David1819]

Large group of Russian troops killed.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/10zn53o/another_orc_company_destroyed/

[David1819]

Due to russia's endless human wave attacks, Ukrainians have to dig deeper trenches... as the current ones are filling up with machine gun bullet casings

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/10zgefz/due_to_russias_endless_human_wave_attacks/

[Roch]

Due to russia's endless human wave attacks, Ukrainians have to dig deeper trenches... as the current ones are filling up with machine gun bullet casings

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/10zgefz/due_to_russias_endless_human_wave_attacks/

Didn't the Iranians use human wave attacks against Iraq? I know very little about the Iran Iraq war. Think it was about 80/81. I expect your government supported Saddam's Iraq during that war, as they hated Iran for deposing the Shah.

[David1819]

Didn't the Iranians use human wave attacks against Iraq? I know very little about the Iran Iraq war. Think it was about 80/81. I expect your government supported Saddam's Iraq during that war, as they hated Iran for deposing the Shah.

I think this is a bit different. The Iranians used human waves consisting of kids and teenagers expecting martyrdom in heaven.

These are Russian prisoners recruited by Wagner and sent into the meat grinder. It's a win win for them as Wagner don't need to pay dead recruits and the Russian state has less prisoners to worry about in its overcrowded and underfunded prison system. There is method to the madness.

[Roch]

I think this is a bit different. The Iranians used human waves consisting of kids and teenagers expecting martyrdom in heaven.

These are Russian prisoners recruited by Wagner and sent into the meat grinder. It's a win win for them as Wagner don't need to pay dead recruits and the Russian state has less prisoners to worry about in its overcrowded and underfunded prison system. There is method to the madness.

When I read you Vs Gringo, I seem to think the truth is somewhere Inbetween or that that are several opposing truths.

[handymanz]

When I read you Vs Gringo, I seem to think the truth is somewhere Inbetween or that that are several opposing truths.

Like most Geo political conflicts the real truth goes back decades or even centuries.
You're better off out of it, or do what ever you can to prevent WW3, because the following war will be fought with sticks & stones.

[David1819]

When I read you Vs Gringo, I seem to think the truth is somewhere Inbetween or that that are several opposing truths.

On planet Gringo, A country with an economy the size of Italy with its domestic plumbing resembling that of a third world country, that's been forced out of Kherson and been forced to withdraw its Navy from the Ukrainian coast after its flagship was sunk. Is soon going to take the entire Ukrainian coast and force a dozen countries out of NATO and create a new world order.

I am starting to wonder whether he is on the Kremlin payroll or just trolling us now. There is no way he keeps a straight face while tying these delusions.

[handymanz]

On planet Gringo, A country with an economy the size of Italy with its domestic plumbing resembling that of a third world country, that's been forced out of Kherson and been forced to withdraw its Navy from the Ukrainian coast after its flagship was sunk. Is soon going to take the entire Ukrainian coast and force a dozen countries out of NATO and create a new world order.

I am starting to wonder whether he is on the Kremlin payroll or just trolling us now. There is no way he keeps a straight face while tying these delusions.

I travelled through Russia on the Trans Siberian Railway and spent 2 days in Moscow back in 1988, I can't recall running into any problems caused by shoddy plumbing.
And Italy to me appears to have quite a reasonable size economy given its large industrial output, via the large companies based there trading into global markets.

I've relocated and plumbed in the kitchen at our house, as well as the shower in the bathroom and laundry room. I'm more than happy to lend Mr. Putin my crimping tool if the technology is yet to reach Russia.

[David1819]

Russian Wagner mercenaries have executed their own fighter Dmitriy Yakushenko, after he was exchanged in a prisoners swap.

https://liveuamap.com/en/2023/13-february-russian-pmc-wagner-mercenaries-have-executed

[Roch]

I travelled through Russia on the Trans Siberian Railway and spent 2 days in Moscow back in 1988, I can't recall running into any problems caused by shoddy plumbing.
And Italy to me appears to have quite a reasonable size economy given its large industrial output, via the large companies based there trading into global markets.

I've relocated and plumbed in the kitchen at our house, as well as the shower in the bathroom and laundry room. I'm more than happy to lend Mr. Putin my crimping tool if the technology is yet to reach Russia.

That reminded me of Kraftwerk. Trans Siberian Express.

[handymanz]

[gringo]

    The forced conscription in Ukraine being filmed by civilians and posted all over social media. All to be sent as fodder with a life expectancy of hours. Ukraine/NATO is losing and in fact lost this war long ago. The continued pouring of forced conscripts into this lost cause is a crime against humanity. The tipping point is very near. There are too many of these videos to count. NATO/Ukraine are desperate and literally kidnapping men off the street, at work, at train stations.
    The huge Ukrainian losses are very real.


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https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1623333827618693120

https://twitter.com/JohnEdgarCarter/status/1625902277260193809

https://twitter.com/Quotment/status/1625809478279999488

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