Russia - worrying?

[David1819]

Russian tank crewman runs away on fire after his tank was hit. Vuhledar 2023.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/10vad2v/russian_tank_crewman_runs_away_on_fire_after_his/

[Steve_uk]

It has reached the point where NATO either have to accept the Russian demands and reality on the ground or enter the war openly which leads to the same outcome-just a bit slower.

    Truth be told, NATO would not dare to openly intervene. Their alleged unity would be exposed and military weakness unequivocally demonstrated. Most of them (NATO countries) are sending no arms to Ukraine and want no part of any US/UK + vassals led war on Russia. If Poland or any other NATO country openly involves itself then Russia will strike military installations in Poland. NATO will not unify and intervene. Turkiye? Hungary? Croatia?  NATO are fighting like "Rats in a sack" amongst themselves and in no position to be taking on Russia. They will end up negotiating on Russian terms before declaring victory.

It's up to the people of Ukraine whether they wish to join NATO. Didn't Macron offer Putin a compromise whereby Ukraine wouldn't join for twenty years? Russia wished to keep the spoils of Crimea with the naval base, which to my mind is the real reason for invading and creating the buffer zone. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/26/ukraine-and-russia-to-hold-paris-talks-in-latest-effort-to-ease-tensions

[gringo]

It's up to the people of Ukraine whether they wish to join NATO. Didn't Macron offer Putin a compromise whereby Ukraine wouldn't join for twenty years? Russia wished to keep the spoils of Crimea with the naval base, which to my mind is the real reason for invading and creating the buffer zone. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/26/ukraine-and-russia-to-hold-paris-talks-in-latest-effort-to-ease-tensions

   The people of Ukraine will have their say on whether they wish to remain part of Ukraine, and what is left of it, or choose independence. Many will choose the latter.
    They will have no say on joining NATO. That is Real geo-politik. If you don't understand this then you are out of your depth discussing it. Those pushing for Ukraine membership have different goals to the ones they are telling you. Ukraine is a failed state now. It isn't joining NATO. NATO will be losing, not gaining, members by the end of 2023.

[Steve_uk]

   The people of Ukraine will have their say on whether they wish to remain part of Ukraine, and what is left of it, or choose independence. Many will choose the latter.
    They will have no say on joining NATO. That is Real geo-politik. If you don't understand this then you are out of your depth discussing it. Those pushing for Ukraine membership have different goals to the ones they are telling you. Ukraine is a failed state now. It isn't joining NATO. NATO will be losing, not gaining, members by the end of 2023.

When will they have this choice? Why not put a UN peacekeeping force in Crimea and the four other areas under Russian control until free and fair elections can be held under the auspices of OSCE?

[gringo]

When will they have this choice? Why not put a UN peacekeeping force in Crimea and the four other areas under Russian control until free and fair elections can be held under the auspices of OSCE?

    Why do Crimeans need a UN peacekeeping force? They are Russian and have a Russian peacekeeping force. They have voted three times since 1991 to join Russia. Crimeans wanted to stay with Russia when the Soviet Union broke up in 1991. They voted overwhelmingly in a referendum to remain with Russia but Russia was in no position to recognise this.
    They have voted twice since then, again overwhelmingly in favour of joining Russia. They neither need nor want outside interference. They are Russian. Why are you so concerned with a people you clearly know nothing about?
    All Ukrainians will be given a vote when their country has been demilitarised. It's what happens when you live next door to a nuclear superpower and allow yourself to be used to provoke and antagonise your bigger stronger neighbour. They will be demilitarised and then choose who they are and who they wish to align with. 

[gringo]

     The promised "leaked" MOSSAD field report;

Claim: Ukrainian and Russian casualties according to MOSSAD
Allegedly, the field data of January 14, 2023, based on Israeli intelligence, is listed as follows:

RUSSIA:
Russian losses in the field with 418 thousand soldiers (plus 3,500,000 reservists) and the increasing number of Wagner mercenaries:
23 Planes
56 helicopter
200 (S)UAV
889 Tanks and armored vehicles
427 Howitzer (Artillery systems)
12 Air defense system
18,480 dead
44,500 Injured
323 Captive

UKRAINE:
The casualties of Ukraine, which was in the field with 734 thousand soldiers (plus 100 thousand reservists) and NATO officers, soldiers and mercenaries, are as follows:
302 Aircraft
212 Helicopter
2.750 (S)UAV
6,320 Tanks and armored vehicles
7.360 Howitzer (Artillery systems)
497 Air defense system
157,000 Dead
234,000 injured
17,230 Captive

234 Dead – NATO military trainers (US and UK)
2,458 Dead – NATO soldiers (Germany, Poland, Lithuania, ...)
5,360 Dead – Mercenaries

   Scott Ritter on George Galloway's MOATS discussing the above

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkMzE1YR4ts&ab_channel=DouglasMacgregorCol

[David1819]

Documented equipment losses on both sides as of now.

Ukraine - 2917, of which: destroyed: 1837, damaged: 137, abandoned: 74, captured: 869
Tanks - (459, of which destroyed: 271, damaged: 29, abandoned: 17, captured: 144)


Russia - 9034, of which: destroyed: 5717, damaged: 243, abandoned: 310, captured: 2764
Tanks - (1679, of which destroyed: 994, damaged: 77, abandoned: 64, captured: 544)


https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-ukrainian.html

https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html

[David1819]

   Scott Ritter on George Galloway's MOATS discussing the above

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkMzE1YR4ts&ab_channel=DouglasMacgregorCol

Ritter declared in February that Russia will not invade Ukraine. After the invasion, Ritter said Ukraine will fall in a week. Ritter then got suspended from Twitter after claiming that the National Police of Ukraine is responsible for the Bucha massacre.

So why is a former U.S. Marine Corps intelligence officer peddling the line of Russian propaganda?
The most likely answer is that for a repeated sex offender (involving children) that has served time in prison, you have trouble finding employment.

Ritter works for and appears on Russia Today. And there is Russian money involved here. Everyone has a price.

As for Galloway

https://twitter.com/georgegalloway/status/1493282583068696579?lang=en

[gringo]

Documented equipment losses on both sides as of now.

Ukraine - 2917, of which: destroyed: 1837, damaged: 137, abandoned: 74, captured: 869
Tanks - (459, of which destroyed: 271, damaged: 29, abandoned: 17, captured: 144)


Russia - 9034, of which: destroyed: 5717, damaged: 243, abandoned: 310, captured: 2764
Tanks - (1679, of which destroyed: 994, damaged: 77, abandoned: 64, captured: 544)


https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-ukrainian.html

https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html

   The trouble with the Oryx numbers, David, apart from their obvious bias, is that they defy known facts on the ground. It isn't Russia running out of all these things, is it? They are, as a matter of fact, firing 8 to 10 times more artillery fire than Ukraine. It is a one sided beat down. Those accepted and non-disputed facts don't square with the fantasy Oryx numbers.

    Oryx are NATO funded and aligned and not in any way objective nor attempting to be. How come Ukraine need more of everything? They have emptied the stocks of previous Soviet countries of tanks, artillery and planes. How come Russia aren't running out? Despite claims from these same outlets(amplified by you)-it seems Russia has plenty of everything.
    It is obvious which side is suffering huge casualties, David.

[David1819]

   The trouble with the Oryx numbers, David, apart from their obvious bias, is that they defy known facts on the ground. It isn't Russia running out of all these things, is it? They are, as a matter of fact, firing 8 to 10 times more artillery fire than Ukraine. It is a one sided beat down. Those accepted and non-disputed facts don't square with the fantasy Oryx numbers.

    Oryx are NATO funded and aligned and not in any way objective nor attempting to be. How come Ukraine need more of everything? They have emptied the stocks of previous Soviet countries of tanks, artillery and planes. How come Russia aren't running out? Despite claims from these same outlets(amplified by you)-it seems Russia has plenty of everything.
    It is obvious which side is suffering huge casualties, David.

How can Oryx be fantasy when you can literally click each case for a photo?

For example

A Russian T-72
https://postlmg.cc/V001gzfr

A Ukrainian Humvee
https://postlmg.cc/BtTxxtXc

Are you saying all 15 thousand of these photos are fake?

[gringo]

     Naftali Bennett, the latest to be distancing himself from the debacle of using Ukraine as a proxy by NATO. The rats are scurrying off the sinking ship;

On March 4, 2022, Bennett traveled to Russia to meet with President Vladimir Putin. In the interview, he detailed his mediation at the time between Putin and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, which he said he coordinated with the US, France, Germany, and the UK.

Bennett said that both sides agreed to major concessions during his mediation effort.

...

But ultimately, the Western leaders opposed Bennet’s efforts. “I’ll say this in the broad sense. I think there was a legitimate decision by the West to keep striking Putin and not [negotiate],” Bennett said.

When asked if the Western powers “blocked” the mediation efforts, Bennet said, “Basically, yes. They blocked it, and I thought they were wrong.”

Bennett says the concessions each side was prepared to make included the renunciation of future NATO membership for Ukraine, and on Russia's end dropping the goals of "denazification" and Ukrainian disarmament. As DeCamp notes, this matches up with an Axios report from early March that "According to Israeli officials, Putin’s proposal is difficult for Zelensky to accept but not as extreme as they anticipated. They said the proposal doesn’t include regime change in Kyiv and allows Ukraine to keep its sovereignty."

Bennett is about as unsavory a character as exists in the world today, but Israel's complicated relationship with this war lends itself to the occasional release of information not fully in alignment with the official imperial line. And his comments here only add to a pile of information that's been coming out for months which says the same thing, not just regarding the sabotage of peace talks in March but in April as well.

In May of last year Ukrainian media reported that then-British prime minister Boris Johnson had flown to Kyiv the previous month to pass on the message on behalf of the western empire that "Putin is a war criminal, he should be pressured, not negotiated with," and that "even if Ukraine is ready to sign some agreements on guarantees with Putin, they are not."

In April of last year, Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu said that "there are those within the NATO member states that want the war to continue, let the war continue and Russia gets weaker." Shortly thereafter, US Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin said that the goal in Ukraine is "to see Russia weakened."

   Bennett's comments make clear that it is Putin and Russia-not NATO and the West-who are seeking peace. Full article below;
https://caitlinjohnstone.substack.com/p/more-evidence-that-the-west-sabotaged

[gringo]

How can Oryx be fantasy when you can literally click each case for a photo?

For example

A Russian T-72
https://postlmg.cc/V001gzfr

A Ukrainian Humvee
https://postlmg.cc/BtTxxtXc

Are you saying all 15 thousand of these photos are fake?

   Not very imaginative are you? 15,000 photos?
    It has been proven that many of these photos are the same picture from different angles, many are staged Ukrainian losses made to look Russian. All of this is known. Unverified pictures are not reliable Open Source Intelligence(OSINT) and that you fail to understand this doesn't surprise me.
    Facts on the ground defy the alleged truth of Oryx numbers.
    Where has all the equipment that Ukraine started with and the massive supplies from various countries gone? How come they are begging for even more? Can you figure it out, David?

[David1819]

    It has been proven that many of these photos are the same picture from different angles,

Such as?

[David1819]

The Oryx blog receives £282 per month from 82 patrons. It has published a book on North Korea called "On The Path Of Songun"

https://www.patreon.com/oryxspioenkop

Certainly a NATO operation this

[nugnug]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O10svZJ2Fps