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Offline Jane

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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #1335 on: March 26, 2022, 10:16:AM »
I'm not seeing it Roch at all because I can't help thinking/ seeing all the damage done to the cities and peoples lives being lost.


My friend has Martin Sixsmith's "Russia -a chronicle of 1000 years of the wild East". I can't wait to read it. I've been to the Ukraine and the thought of all those lives lost, and all their magnificent and historical architecture being destroyed is heartbreaking, but buildings can be replaced, lives can't.

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« Reply #1336 on: March 26, 2022, 03:02:PM »
If the news from Russia is to be believed, it sounds like they have folded on their original aims. Humiliating. I bet they wished they could turn back the clock five weeks and cancel the invasion.

From an FSB leak

"Blitzkrieg failed. It is simply impossible to complete the task now: if Zelensky and the authorities were captured in the first 1-3 days, they seized all the key buildings in Kyiv, they gave them the order to surrender - yes, the resistance would subside to the minimum values. In theory. But what's next? Even with this ideal variant, there was an unsolvable problem: with whom to negotiate? If we demolish Zelensky, well, with whom should we sign agreements? If with Zelensky, then after we demolish it, these papers are worth nothing. Opposition Platform for Life refused to cooperate: Medvedchuk is a coward, he fled. There is a second leader there - Boyko, but he refuses to work with us - even his own people will not understand him. They wanted to return Tsarev, so even our pro-Russians turned against him. Return Yanukovych? But as? If we say that it is impossible to occupy, then any of our authorities will be killed there in 10 minutes, as we leave. Occupy? Where are we going to get so many people? Commandant's offices, military police, counterintelligence, security - even with minimal resistance from the locals, we need 500 thousand or more people. Not counting the supply system. And there is a rule that by covering the poor quality of management with quantity, you only spoil everything. And this, I repeat, would be with the ideal option, which does not exist."

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/t7l1e8/fsb_whistleblowers_letter_verified_by_bellingcat/

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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #1337 on: March 26, 2022, 04:00:PM »

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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #1338 on: March 26, 2022, 08:56:PM »
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/26/putin-has-a-21st-century-digital-battle-plan-so-why-is-he-fighting-like-its-1939

Putin has a 21st-century digital battle plan, so why is he fighting like it’s 1939?
John Naughton
« Last Edit: March 26, 2022, 11:41:PM by mike tesko »

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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #1339 on: March 27, 2022, 09:51:AM »
It looks like there are clowns in charge of tactics and communication.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ukrainians-watch-astonished-at-groundhog-day-blunders-t332ftnf7

« Last Edit: March 27, 2022, 11:10:AM by Roch »

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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #1340 on: March 27, 2022, 10:39:AM »
I am [and many, many others] are direct victims of 'ADOLF  HITLERS' regime. 'Now', another 'anti human monster' -['pukin', 'pooing', 'lunatic','vermin brain dead', 'authoritarian radical' - unfortunately, for 'you, [you murdering bastard]. When, and if you die, 'you will not be returned to god', and 'you will not be welcome into the household  of Satin'
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #1341 on: March 27, 2022, 02:15:PM »
I think Oborne expresses this really well. Also a fan of the channel in general.

https://youtu.be/h9DtoNm0QJA

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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #1342 on: March 27, 2022, 02:31:PM »
A brilliant video which highlights our immoral country here in the UK. Dreadful !! I truly don't know which is the worst---UK or the USA.

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« Reply #1343 on: March 27, 2022, 02:48:PM »
A brilliant video which highlights our immoral country here in the UK. Dreadful !! I truly don't know which is the worst---UK or the USA.

I am glad that you gave it your time Lookout and that you appreciated this perspective.

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« Reply #1344 on: March 27, 2022, 03:01:PM »
I am glad that you gave it your time Lookout and that you appreciated this perspective.






It's something you think about Roch and when it's put over and explained in the way that Oborne did it explained everything very clearly and in a way fills you with shame that you're part of a nation who doesn't care and where greed is evident.

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« Reply #1345 on: March 27, 2022, 06:35:PM »
It looks like there are clowns in charge of tactics and communication.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ukrainians-watch-astonished-at-groundhog-day-blunders-t332ftnf7

The guy in charge of the Russian military and this whole shit show is Sergei Shoigu who actually has no military experience  :))

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Shoigu
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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #1347 on: March 28, 2022, 05:34:PM »
Abramovich in suspected poisoning

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10660555/Roman-Abramovich-suffered-suspected-POISONING-Ukraine-peace-negotiators.html





I saw that David. I wondered how long it would take for Putin to go to his " cocktail cabinet ".

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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #1348 on: March 28, 2022, 05:38:PM »
I'm thinking of all those who've been captured from Mariupol and taken to Russia. Bargaining tools ?

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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #1349 on: March 28, 2022, 08:06:PM »
David Starkey speaks: https://youtu.be/DgPqemB_7Sk