Russia - worrying?

[David1819]

He argues that Russia is inventing stuff about its neighbour, in order to provide a (false) pretext to justify invasion.  How is that any different that falsely stating Iraq had weapons of mass destruction as a pretext to invade Iraq?

There is no difference.  At best, Russia probably wants a neutral Ukrainian state separate from NATO.  At worst Russia wants a puppet Ukrainian state.

The USA probably approved which candidate should take over the running of Iraq.  That candidate would need to be a lot more pro USA than Saddam Hussein was. 

If Ukraine are protecting us all from Russia, then who is going protect any other states from the USA?

👽

[David1819]

As many as 15,000 Russian troops have been killed since the invasion of Ukraine began four weeks ago, according to NATO's first estimate.

[lookout]

The first bit of news I watched was this evening when all those little orphans boarded a flight to Scotland, bless them. I'd followed their journey last night when things had been delayed due to paperwork problems but they're in the air and on their way to safety. Their lives were already in turmoil being orphaned for whatever reason so now I hope they'll feel settled and should hope that they're all kept together.

[Roch]

The first bit of news I watched was this evening when all those little orphans boarded a flight to Scotland, bless them. I'd followed their journey last night when things had been delayed due to paperwork problems but they're in the air and on their way to safety. Their lives were already in turmoil being orphaned for whatever reason so now I hope they'll feel settled and should hope that they're all kept together.

I sometimes think of all the animals and pets, left behind, turned loose or trapped / buried in the rubble. More innocent victims of war.

[lookout]

I sometimes think of all the animals and pets, left behind, turned loose or trapped / buried in the rubble. More innocent victims of war.

Oh yes, I was thinking of the animals when this first kicked off and was hoping it didn't show any wandering in the streets. Thankfully those people who fled the areas took their dogs and cats with them.
I did also see some news about someone rescuing all the animals from an animal shelter.
You can't help thinking about the ones that didn't make it though   

[David1819]

Nato to boost forces in eastern Europe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGI31bumtGw

[Roch]

Nato to boost forces in eastern Europe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGI31bumtGw

I don't see him as threatening NATO states in Eastern Europe.

Ukraine has attacked a Russian landing craft where it was docked..

https://www.forbes.com/sites/siladityaray/2022/03/24/russian-landing-ship-destroyed-while-docked-in-berdyansk-port-ukrainian-navy-claims/

[David1819]

I don't see him as threatening NATO states in Eastern Europe.

Ukraine has attacked a Russian landing craft where it was docked..

https://www.forbes.com/sites/siladityaray/2022/03/24/russian-landing-ship-destroyed-while-docked-in-berdyansk-port-ukrainian-navy-claims/

One crazy development in all this, is the fact Chechens are fighting Chechens.

[lookout]

I wonder what's come out of the summit meeting as I haven't been watching the news.

[Roch]

I wonder what's come out of the summit meeting as I haven't been watching the news.

I expect summit came out of it... 💁

[lookout]

I expect summit came out of it... 💁

Or now't 

[Roch]

https://www.rt.com/russia/552600-diplomats-predicted-escalation-ukraine/

[Roch]

The source is obviously going to provide the highest set of figures in comparison to other sources. Nevertheless, the figures are staggering. https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3439443-update-on-russian-losses-in-ukraine-war-over-16000-personnel-115-warplanes-561-tanks.html

[Roch]

If the news from Russia is to be believed, it sounds like they have folded on their original aims. Humiliating. I bet they wished they could turn back the clock five weeks and cancel the invasion.

[lookout]

I'm not seeing it Roch at all because I can't help thinking/ seeing all the damage done to the cities and peoples lives being lost.