Miscellaneous Notes...

[Alias]

But it appears he was considering it though?

I think he used a lot of time on writing it, but in the end didn´t have the guts to give it to Nevill. As far as I remember, he brought it with him to hand over that last time he drove Sheila and the boys to the farm.
He couldn´t think of anything but getting out of there as quickly as possible. Even though the twins were literally clinging to him, crying hysterically and begging him not to go.

Worth noticing: Jeremy wasn´t there, it wasn´t him they were afraid of....

[Mr. Gee]

I think he used a lot of time on writing it, but in the end didn´t have the guts to give it to Nevill. As far as I remember, he brought it with him to hand over that last time he drove Sheila and the boys to the farm.
He couldn´t think of anything but getting out of there as quickly as possible. Even though the twins were literally clinging to him, crying hysterically and begging him not to go.

Worth noticing: Jeremy wasn´t there, it wasn´t him they were afraid of....

Alia I feel that so much is being left out of the reckoning in these so called scenarios? A kind of unwillingness to consider anything that may militate against their so called evidence.

[Alias]

Alia I feel that so much is being left out of the reckoning in these so called scenarios? A kind of unwillingness to consider anything that may militate against their so called evidence.

Yes, absolutely.

[Caroline]

But it appears he was considering it though?

I imagine so or he wouldn't have written it.

[scipio_usmc]

I think he used a lot of time on writing it, but in the end didn´t have the guts to give it to Nevill. As far as I remember, he brought it with him to hand over that last time he drove Sheila and the boys to the farm.
He couldn´t think of anything but getting out of there as quickly as possible. Even though the twins were literally clinging to him, crying hysterically and begging him not to go.

Worth noticing: Jeremy wasn´t there, it wasn´t him they were afraid of....

It is not just a matter of guts giving it to them.   It was a matter of whether he really wanted that responsibility if they got Sheila to agree to it. He was still debating in his own mine whether it is something he wanted to do.   

[Alias]

It is not just a matter of guts giving it to them.   It was a matter of whether he really wanted that responsibility if they got Sheila to agree to it. He was still debating in his own mine whether it is something he wanted to do.   

Leave me alone.

[scipio_usmc]

I think he used a lot of time on writing it, but in the end didn´t have the guts to give it to Nevill. As far as I remember, he brought it with him to hand over that last time he drove Sheila and the boys to the farm.
He couldn´t think of anything but getting out of there as quickly as possible. Even though the twins were literally clinging to him, crying hysterically and begging him not to go.

Worth noticing: Jeremy wasn´t there, it wasn´t him they were afraid of....

They didn't like that they were forced to eat whatever the family was having for a meal, being forced to being forced to pray and have to do farm chores.  In other words there was too much discipline for their taste.  That has no bearing at all on the murders.

[Alias]

Go away, skippy. I don´t like you.

[guest154]

Go away, skippy. I don´t like you.

 

Alias - are you doing an impression of a 5 year old? You can't be serious?? I've never seen you act this way before.

[scipio_usmc]

Alias - are you doing an impression of a 5 year old? You can't be serious?? I've never seen you act this way before.

The more odd thing is she thinks it is going to get me to stop commenting on her posts.

[guest154]

The more odd thing is she thinks it is going to get me to stop commenting on her posts.

She can't control anyone else, only herself. So all she can do is stop replying to you/ put you on ignore - which surely is much easier than telling you what to do.

Not sure how serious she is.

[Alias]

She can't control anyone else, only herself. So all she can do is stop replying to you/ put you on ignore - which surely is much easier than telling you what to do.

Not sure how serious she is.

I am not answering skippy´s posts - he keeps answering mine. I prefer no interaction, I really don´t like him, I am dead-serious.

[lookout]

30 Years on and it's been decided that doctors and nurses be made to undertake mental health training as part of their professional development.
Mental health should also be part of the curriculum in promoting health and well being in pupils to prevent any future problems.

These measures are taking place tomorrow and it's hoped that the services are brought up to the same level as physical health.
"Just 1.4 per cent of public health spending is given to mental health,despite one in four people having a mental crisis ".


Ask yourselves,if this is now----2015,what were services like back in the 80's ?

I find this absolutely appalling,being that there were 8,000 people in 2012/13 who were detained in police cells because of the lack of NHS alternatives. As facts remain,people who do suffer,die on average 15/20 years earlier than others.

[maggie]

30 Years on and it's been decided that doctors and nurses be made to undertake mental health training as part of their professional development.
Mental health should also be part of the curriculum in promoting health and well being in pupils to prevent any future problems.

These measures are taking place tomorrow and it's hoped that the services are brought up to the same level as physical health.
"Just 1.4 per cent of public health spending is given to mental health,despite one in four people having a mental crisis ".


Ask yourselves,if this is now----2015,what were services like back in the 80's ?

I find this absolutely appalling,being that there were 8,000 people in 2012/13 who were detained in police cells because of the lack of NHS alternatives. As facts remain,people who do suffer,die on average 15/20 years earlier than others.

Completely agree lookout and hopefully this training will help doctors and some nurses being a bit more aware that their approach and consideration of every patient's mental health should be a matter of concern and consideration. It's time the NHS were far more holistic, being a doctor or nurse doesn't automatically equip them, it comes naturally to some but many have an appalling lack of understanding imo

[lookout]

Completely agree lookout and hopefully this training will help doctors and some nurses being a bit more aware that their approach and consideration of every patient's mental health should be a matter of concern and consideration. It's time the NHS were far more holistic, being a doctor or nurse doesn't automatically equip them, it comes naturally to some but many have an appalling lack of understanding imo

Maggie,it's devastating to imagine that in those years,8,000 SICK people were thrown into police cells. It's truly heartbreaking and very upsetting when in this day and age,help should have been at hand. It CAN and DOES happen to anyone.
If I was younger,I'd return to that particular field of nursing. I only wish I'd done a Masters on the subject,then I could have at least given my time to tutoring.