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Miscellaneous Notes...
« on: January 25, 2015, 07:51:AM »
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"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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Re: Miscellaneous Notes...
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2015, 12:56:PM »
 According to Jeremys' original wit stats,Sheila had had 3 miscarriages and two abortions before she had the twins.
Anyone who has a miscarriage suffers terribly and usually attends counselling,but I don't see that this happened with Sheila. That poor woman probably " had to get on with it ",as according to June,after Sheila was discharged from the psychiatric clinic,she had little or no sympathy for Sheilas' state of mind,so there'd have been even less after the miscarriages.

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« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2015, 03:44:PM »
 During the time that Sheila started going " downhill ",the family,including Jeremy,had discussed moving Sheila to " take over  "Jeremys house in Goldhanger to be nearer to WHF so that everyone,including Jeremy, could help her and the twins.
There was NEVER any mention of Jeremy either objecting to this arrangement,nor being jealous in any way of any attention given to Sheila and her boys. It seemed that EVERYONE,including Jeremy again,were trying to do their utmost in helping Sheila,who was having none of it,and chose to live/stay at Maida Vale nearer to the night-life of London.
 


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« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2015, 03:50:PM »
During the time that Sheila started going " downhill ",the family,including Jeremy,had discussed moving Sheila to " take over  "Jeremys house in Goldhanger to be nearer to WHF so that everyone,including Jeremy, could help her and the twins.
There was NEVER any mention of Jeremy either objecting to this arrangement,nor being jealous in any way of any attention given to Sheila and her boys. It seemed that EVERYONE,including Jeremy again,were trying to do their utmost in helping Sheila,who was having none of it,and chose to live/stay at Maida Vale nearer to the night-life of London.


I don't recall seeing it said ANYWHERE that Jeremy was a part of such a conversation , NOR do I imagine he'd have welcomed the idea. It was his first home, decorated and furnished to his taste with the help of a loan, and I don't think he'd have relished having to move out to allow Sheila to live there.

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« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2015, 06:19:PM »

I don't recall seeing it said ANYWHERE that Jeremy was a part of such a conversation , NOR do I imagine he'd have welcomed the idea. It was his first home, decorated and furnished to his taste with the help of a loan, and I don't think he'd have relished having to move out to allow Sheila to live there.




Jeremys' own,original wit stats.

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« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2015, 06:35:PM »
 June herself was still receiving treatment up until the 6th of August as she'd gone into a deep depression after losing Nevilles' mother,who June had looked after at WHF before her admission to hospital. Jeremy had described his mothers' illness as being an exhaustive one,and between both June and Sheila,it had put a great strain on Neville at that time,so it's not surprising that he was under the weather when he spoke to BW.

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« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2015, 11:38:AM »
Who let Jeremy out after the killings ? If all internal doors were locked when the raid team entered,then someone must have " re-locked " them from the inside ? It's alright entering in and out of windows,but why were the internal doors still locked from the inside ? Surely it meant that the killer was still inside the building ?

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« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2015, 11:49:AM »
Doesn't this also beg the question as to how a silencer got back into a cupboard when there was a locked door between the kitchen and the gun cupboard ? Or am I going to confuse things ? The kitchen and the room where the guns were kept were two separate entities,divided by a door which was locked on one side.
I'm tring to get a picture of the layout of the ground floor and it does appear to be all doors,one of which had to be bashed open in which to gain access to the downstairs rooms.
The obstruction they were met with behind one door,was Neville. This area was a blind-spot when looking through the window from outside,meaning that the body which was seen,was that of a woman and not Neville.

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« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2015, 12:21:PM »
At the time of the murders,there was a builder who'd been working at WHF and who had got to know the family quite well. When it had been announced that Jeremy had been the murderer and was arrested,the builder,a grandfather himself,had said that he,Jeremy,could never have done it.

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« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2015, 01:36:PM »
 Why on EP's communication notes has it got :
 Ref.firearms incident  ??
      Following update-
        1 ( one) dead male.
        1 ( one ) dead female found on entry to premises-----------------ON ENTRY ?

Request 1) SOC to attend.
             2) Ch Supt.Divisional to attend.
             3) Divisional DCI attend.
             4) Police Firearms attend.
             5) Coroners Officer Informed Only.

This was logged at 07.38 0n the 7th of August 1985 by Insp.Norman.

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« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2015, 01:44:PM »
Then at 08.10,after a thorough search of the farmhouse,a further 3 bodies were found upstairs.  Making 5 bodies in all.( Info from Duty Insp.HQIR) As logged.

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« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2015, 06:35:PM »
 The above notes are backed up with original documents or statements.

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« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2015, 11:00:AM »
Any thoughts on the silence of the Pharma company which supplies the likes of Haldol and Stelazine ? Two of the drugs which were given to Sheila,knowing that Haldol is associated with murder and suicide ?
Did Doctor Ferguson know this also ?


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« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2015, 06:35:PM »
How long would it have taken Sheila,or anyone in the farmhouse that night,to have just dialled 999 and shouted help ? The address would have been traced in a second. There were 3 adults for Gods' sake.

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« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2015, 08:31:PM »
 A 29 year old woman from Washington who suffered from post-partum depression has injured her 3 children. She slashed the throats of her 3 crying babies to stop them from disturbing her Special Forces husband who is in the Army.
This happened on Sunday when 6 month old twins and her two year old were all crying at once,and she snapped,to keep them quiet.
The woman,Christina Booth is a beautiful woman and is now on bail for $3million for attempted murder.
Olympia police and detectives said that they were getting a picture of family in stress.