Two bodies in the kitchen. A time for closure ?

[sami]

Robertson--get his name right please. He's one of the good cops ( not his real name )

if your talking about the bill that posted on here,well he might well be our own mike t

[lookout]

if your talking about the bill that posted on here,well he might well be our own mike t

No he isn't.

[Jane]

Deaf people manage to form impression without hearing.
Blind people manage without seeing.

Not all of our value judgments are visual or audible. We can judge on reportage.
Most of the world has an opinion about an entity they've never seen or heard, only read about.
Half the world believes in a God that (arguably) has less evidence to support him than JB does.

All perfectly true.........................but a tad too intellectual, I feel...................as in GUT feeling.

[TheBrilliantMistake]

It's rather ironic that much speculation on this case is based on both Sheila and Jeremy's feelings and state of mind.

On either side of the fence you'll find arguments being made as to the motivation behind the murders, but feelings are so readily dismissed when it comes to judging their actions.

[sami]

No he isn't.

hes the same one that said put your money on jb to be out by christmas,that was in 2017.he also knew how long a dog would bark after hearing a bang (20 mins)barbara woodhouse will be turning in her grave

[Jan]

It's rather ironic that much speculation on this case is based on both Sheila and Jeremy's feelings and state of mind.

On either side of the fence you'll find arguments being made as to the motivation behind the murders, but feelings are so readily dismissed when it comes to judging their actions.

Whose feelings do you feel are dismissed?

[TheBrilliantMistake]

Whose feelings do you feel are dismissed?

Carol Ann Lee has been criticised for her book, with claims of it being based on her gut feelings, then having a specific and limited narrative aimed at persuading the reader of his guilt, rather than a broader 'both sides' approach.

At the same time, many here have been at pains to say "Sheila/Jeremy would have been feeling..." which is pure conjecture, yet presented as though it were evidential.

[Roch]

Carol Ann Lee has been criticised for her book, with claims of it being based on her gut feelings, then having a specific and limited narrative aimed at persuading the reader of his guilt, rather than a broader 'both sides' approach.

At the same time, many here have been at pains to say "Sheila/Jeremy would have been feeling..." which is pure conjecture, yet presented as though it were evidential.

An interesting point. 

However, posters who try to empathise with people directly affected by or involved in the case (or imagine their feelings), are hardly likely to have their posts snapped up by a TV production company and then fed to millions of viewers; with additional marketing and three paragraph press articles with lurid headlines. 

[lookout]

There is a media company who have studied the Bamber case and who are also adamant that JB is innocent and who are presently an interested party. We'll see what transpires.

[TheBrilliantMistake]

An interesting point. 

However, posters who try to empathise with people directly affected by or involved in the case (or imagine their feelings), are hardly likely to have their posts snapped up by a TV production company and then fed to millions of viewers; with additional marketing and three paragraph press articles with lurid headlines.

But the opportunity for them to try to do so is/was always there.
She bothered to write a book, and a TV company used it as inspiration.
Folks can hardly complain with 'A TV company chose to take HER book as an inspiration, when it's totally biased and littered with flaws'.

Should have written a less biased and less flawed book then!

[Roch]

But the opportunity for them to try to do so is/was always there.
She bothered to write a book, and a TV company used it as inspiration.
Folks can hardly complain with 'A TV company chose to take HER book as an inspiration, when it's totally biased and littered with flaws'.

Should have written a less biased and less flawed book then!

You're missing the point.  Her book is a Godsend for anyone with any clout in influencing commissioning, from the perspective of hammering home a certain view of the case.  In the end, the view that will be pervasive among the majority of viewers, is the one where the police messed up; the relatives helped them put it right; and the nasty man is caught. 

You might as well go back to 1993 and air the effort that was made then. 

If somebody writes a book about every aspect of corrupt practice in the case, it's not going to get commissioned in to a program.  In other words, the people with the clout are like 'The Man from DelMonte'.

 

[David1819]

You're missing the point.  Her book is a Godsend for anyone with any clout in influencing commissioning, from the perspective of hammering home a certain view of the case.  In the end, the view that will be pervasive among the majority of viewers, is the one where the police messed up; the relatives helped them put it right; and the nasty man is caught. 

You might as well go back to 1993 and air the effort that was made then. 

If somebody writes a book about every aspect of corrupt practice in the case, it's not going to get commissioned in to a program.  In other words, the people with the clout are like 'The Man from DelMonte'.

If that book was honest and objective, the program would be rather boring and nothing too controversial. If the book was based on claims made by the CT and theories that you subscribe to. The show would be so ridiculous nobody would believe it anyway.

[Roch]

If that book was honest and objective, the program would be rather boring and nothing too controversial. If the book was based on claims made by the CT and theories that you subscribe to. The show would be so ridiculous nobody would believe it anyway.

What theories do I subscribe to?

[David1819]

What theories do I subscribe to?

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,8513.msg404906.html#msg404906

[Roch]

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,8513.msg404906.html#msg404906

I've only just scanned through it but yes, makes perfect sense to me. That's the opinion of a former EP officer, who knows how the police operated. He also wrote an excellent piece about the mindset and ethos of police at the time.