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I am looking for confirmation of DCI "Taff" Jones, and his widows, next of kin?Can anybody help with this information, please...
Quote from: Kaldin on April 10, 2011, 01:52:PMQuote from: abs on April 10, 2011, 01:45:PMIt is my understanding that "Taff" Jones in no way believed that Jeremy Bamber had anything to do with the murders and that he was very annoyed by the extended family´s meddling with the case.Was he annoyed simply because he believed or knew that JB didn´t do it - or because he was involved in a police-cover-up and wanted it kept in the dark?Strange timing of his death and strange death. Coincidences happen, but this one makes you wonder.If he was so annoyed, he could simply have told them that he spoke to Sheila couldn't he?------------------He could have, but he might not have chosen to do so, because of the implications to and upon the reputation of EP...
Quote from: abs on April 10, 2011, 01:45:PMIt is my understanding that "Taff" Jones in no way believed that Jeremy Bamber had anything to do with the murders and that he was very annoyed by the extended family´s meddling with the case.Was he annoyed simply because he believed or knew that JB didn´t do it - or because he was involved in a police-cover-up and wanted it kept in the dark?Strange timing of his death and strange death. Coincidences happen, but this one makes you wonder.If he was so annoyed, he could simply have told them that he spoke to Sheila couldn't he?
It is my understanding that "Taff" Jones in no way believed that Jeremy Bamber had anything to do with the murders and that he was very annoyed by the extended family´s meddling with the case.Was he annoyed simply because he believed or knew that JB didn´t do it - or because he was involved in a police-cover-up and wanted it kept in the dark?Strange timing of his death and strange death. Coincidences happen, but this one makes you wonder.
Quote from: mike tesko on April 10, 2011, 01:53:PMQuote from: Kaldin on April 10, 2011, 01:52:PMQuote from: abs on April 10, 2011, 01:45:PMIt is my understanding that "Taff" Jones in no way believed that Jeremy Bamber had anything to do with the murders and that he was very annoyed by the extended family´s meddling with the case.Was he annoyed simply because he believed or knew that JB didn´t do it - or because he was involved in a police-cover-up and wanted it kept in the dark?Strange timing of his death and strange death. Coincidences happen, but this one makes you wonder.If he was so annoyed, he could simply have told them that he spoke to Sheila couldn't he?------------------He could have, but he might not have chosen to do so, because of the implications to and upon the reputation of EP...I don't buy that. If he was willing to give evidence at the trial, he obviously had no compunction about any such implications.
Quote from: Kaldin on April 10, 2011, 02:01:PMQuote from: mike tesko on April 10, 2011, 01:53:PMQuote from: Kaldin on April 10, 2011, 01:52:PMQuote from: abs on April 10, 2011, 01:45:PMIt is my understanding that "Taff" Jones in no way believed that Jeremy Bamber had anything to do with the murders and that he was very annoyed by the extended family´s meddling with the case.Was he annoyed simply because he believed or knew that JB didn´t do it - or because he was involved in a police-cover-up and wanted it kept in the dark?Strange timing of his death and strange death. Coincidences happen, but this one makes you wonder.If he was so annoyed, he could simply have told them that he spoke to Sheila couldn't he?------------------He could have, but he might not have chosen to do so, because of the implications to and upon the reputation of EP...I don't buy that. If he was willing to give evidence at the trial, he obviously had no compunction about any such implications.-You don't know that - for example, he could have been waiting to a point closer to the date when the trial was due to commence and he could have voiced his concerns to the DPOP / CPS...Many cases get discontinued by this very same process...
Details of "Taff" Jones death, could be obtained from St Catherines House, London, providing the date of his death was accurately known, or verified - also it would be possible to establish the name of his wife, from those same records...
Quote from: chochokeira on April 10, 2011, 02:52:PMQuote from: chochokeira on April 10, 2011, 02:40:PMDeaths in Essex during 1986 of men named Thomas Jones.JONES, Thomas Arthur Barking & Dagenham Essex 1986 July JONES, Thomas Edgar Harlow Essex 1986 June JONES, Thomas Emyr Chelmsford Essex 1986 June JONES, Thomas George Southend on Sea Essex 1986 July JONES, Thomas Henry Harlow Essex 1986 May JONES, Thomas Henry J Epping Forest Essex 1986 December JONES, Thomas Emyr Chelmsford Essex 1986 June looks good.Name: JONES, Thomas Emyr Reg District: Chelmsford, Essex Year of Reg: 1986 Month of Reg: June Born: 21 June 1939 Order details: Vol: 9, P: 1794, Reg No: 686The birth indexes - I want the location of the birth to help narrow down possible locations for a marriage - these indexes normally only give the full first name plus an initial of the middle name, which is annoying as Taff appears to have had such a distinctive middle name. However, the death data I have which gives Thomas Emyr's date of birth has at least enabled me to narrow a large number of Thomas E Jones births down to the following:JONES Thomas E Staines Middlesex 1939 Apr-May-JuneJONES Thomas E Cardiganshire Central Cardiganshire 1939 Apr-May-Jun JONES Thomas E Bangor Caernarvonshire 1939 Apr-May-Jun JONES Thomas E Bedwellty Monmouthshire 1939 Apr-May-Jun Marriages 1960 onwards - there are hundreds of them, however the following looks good to me:JONES Thomas E Colchester Essex 1961 Jan-Feb-Mar Name: JONES, Thomas E Reg District: Colchester Cty: Essex Year of Reg: 1961 Quarter of Reg: Jan-Feb-Mar Spouse's surname: Thomas Vol 4A, P: 1175 Name: THOMAS, Hazel J Reg District: Colchester Cty: Essex Year of Reg: 1961 Qtr of Reg: Jan-Feb-Mar Spouse's surname: Jones Vol: 4A, P:1175
Quote from: chochokeira on April 10, 2011, 02:40:PMDeaths in Essex during 1986 of men named Thomas Jones.JONES, Thomas Arthur Barking & Dagenham Essex 1986 July JONES, Thomas Edgar Harlow Essex 1986 June JONES, Thomas Emyr Chelmsford Essex 1986 June JONES, Thomas George Southend on Sea Essex 1986 July JONES, Thomas Henry Harlow Essex 1986 May JONES, Thomas Henry J Epping Forest Essex 1986 December JONES, Thomas Emyr Chelmsford Essex 1986 June looks good.Name: JONES, Thomas Emyr Reg District: Chelmsford, Essex Year of Reg: 1986 Month of Reg: June Born: 21 June 1939 Order details: Vol: 9, P: 1794, Reg No: 686The birth indexes - I want the location of the birth to help narrow down possible locations for a marriage - these indexes normally only give the full first name plus an initial of the middle name, which is annoying as Taff appears to have had such a distinctive middle name. However, the death data I have which gives Thomas Emyr's date of birth has at least enabled me to narrow a large number of Thomas E Jones births down to the following:JONES Thomas E Staines Middlesex 1939 Apr-May-JuneJONES Thomas E Cardiganshire Central Cardiganshire 1939 Apr-May-Jun JONES Thomas E Bangor Caernarvonshire 1939 Apr-May-Jun JONES Thomas E Bedwellty Monmouthshire 1939 Apr-May-Jun
Deaths in Essex during 1986 of men named Thomas Jones.JONES, Thomas Arthur Barking & Dagenham Essex 1986 July JONES, Thomas Edgar Harlow Essex 1986 June JONES, Thomas Emyr Chelmsford Essex 1986 June JONES, Thomas George Southend on Sea Essex 1986 July JONES, Thomas Henry Harlow Essex 1986 May JONES, Thomas Henry J Epping Forest Essex 1986 December JONES, Thomas Emyr Chelmsford Essex 1986 June looks good.Name: JONES, Thomas Emyr Reg District: Chelmsford, Essex Year of Reg: 1986 Month of Reg: June Born: 21 June 1939 Order details: Vol: 9, P: 1794, Reg No: 686
Quote from: mike tesko on April 10, 2011, 01:46:PMI am looking for confirmation of DCI "Taff" Jones, and his widows, next of kin?Can anybody help with this information, please...What was Taff's real Christian name, Mike? Do we know roughly how old he was? He presumably died in 1986? Jones is one of, if not the, commonest surname in the British Isles: if he was Welsh...gawd 'elp us. But we might get lucky.
Mike, can you explain how at 1.28 you were unaware of the death of Taffs wife and at 1.52 you announce the evidence was discovered when the house was cleared following her death by the distant relative.this distant relative wasn't the bloke who also found Hitler's diaries are they mate?
Quote from: tonyb on April 10, 2011, 08:51:PMMike, can you explain how at 1.28 you were unaware of the death of Taffs wife and at 1.52 you announce the evidence was discovered when the house was cleared following her death by the distant relative.this distant relative wasn't the bloke who also found Hitler's diaries are they mate? ...................I don't know the exact date his wife died - but as a result of the house clearance, new significant material come to light, I am led to believe...
