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Quote from: Kaldin on April 10, 2011, 11:56:AMQuote from: mike tesko on April 10, 2011, 11:53:AMQuote from: Kaldin on April 10, 2011, 11:44:AMQuote from: mike tesko on April 10, 2011, 11:43:AMQuote from: Kaldin on April 10, 2011, 11:41:AMTaff Jones had nine months in which to tell a lot of people if he spoke to Sheila. He apparently didn't tell anyone.--------------He discussed it at length with all the other senior police officers who were involved in the cover up...How do you know that? He didn't bother to tell the relatives that he spoke to Sheila did he? He also didn't bother to tell Jeremy.-----------------He didn't need to tell the relatives, but it showed by his attitude towards them when they were trying to suggest that JB had killed everyone...He didn't need to speak to anyone, other than those who were directly involved in the cover up - and DS "Stan" Jones, by the way, was not privy to the cover up, in the early stages of the investigation, which is why he comes across as being a pain in the butt, to DCI "Taff" Jones, and the others - however, he was later brought into the circle and told the truth about what took place...The relatives became suspicious because they did not feel it was right, and so did DS "Stan" Jones, for different reasons:-The relatives and DS Jones, became suspicious because there was a cover up...He didn't need to, but there was nothing stopping him from doing so. Why would he not tell Jeremy and his relatives that he spoke to Sheila?-------------------------The cover up was designed to protect the image and reputation of EP, but if "Taff" Jones had not died he would have testified at JB's trial and told the truth...
Quote from: mike tesko on April 10, 2011, 11:53:AMQuote from: Kaldin on April 10, 2011, 11:44:AMQuote from: mike tesko on April 10, 2011, 11:43:AMQuote from: Kaldin on April 10, 2011, 11:41:AMTaff Jones had nine months in which to tell a lot of people if he spoke to Sheila. He apparently didn't tell anyone.--------------He discussed it at length with all the other senior police officers who were involved in the cover up...How do you know that? He didn't bother to tell the relatives that he spoke to Sheila did he? He also didn't bother to tell Jeremy.-----------------He didn't need to tell the relatives, but it showed by his attitude towards them when they were trying to suggest that JB had killed everyone...He didn't need to speak to anyone, other than those who were directly involved in the cover up - and DS "Stan" Jones, by the way, was not privy to the cover up, in the early stages of the investigation, which is why he comes across as being a pain in the butt, to DCI "Taff" Jones, and the others - however, he was later brought into the circle and told the truth about what took place...The relatives became suspicious because they did not feel it was right, and so did DS "Stan" Jones, for different reasons:-The relatives and DS Jones, became suspicious because there was a cover up...He didn't need to, but there was nothing stopping him from doing so. Why would he not tell Jeremy and his relatives that he spoke to Sheila?
Quote from: Kaldin on April 10, 2011, 11:44:AMQuote from: mike tesko on April 10, 2011, 11:43:AMQuote from: Kaldin on April 10, 2011, 11:41:AMTaff Jones had nine months in which to tell a lot of people if he spoke to Sheila. He apparently didn't tell anyone.--------------He discussed it at length with all the other senior police officers who were involved in the cover up...How do you know that? He didn't bother to tell the relatives that he spoke to Sheila did he? He also didn't bother to tell Jeremy.-----------------He didn't need to tell the relatives, but it showed by his attitude towards them when they were trying to suggest that JB had killed everyone...He didn't need to speak to anyone, other than those who were directly involved in the cover up - and DS "Stan" Jones, by the way, was not privy to the cover up, in the early stages of the investigation, which is why he comes across as being a pain in the butt, to DCI "Taff" Jones, and the others - however, he was later brought into the circle and told the truth about what took place...The relatives became suspicious because they did not feel it was right, and so did DS "Stan" Jones, for different reasons:-The relatives and DS Jones, became suspicious because there was a cover up...
Quote from: mike tesko on April 10, 2011, 11:43:AMQuote from: Kaldin on April 10, 2011, 11:41:AMTaff Jones had nine months in which to tell a lot of people if he spoke to Sheila. He apparently didn't tell anyone.--------------He discussed it at length with all the other senior police officers who were involved in the cover up...How do you know that? He didn't bother to tell the relatives that he spoke to Sheila did he? He also didn't bother to tell Jeremy.
Quote from: Kaldin on April 10, 2011, 11:41:AMTaff Jones had nine months in which to tell a lot of people if he spoke to Sheila. He apparently didn't tell anyone.--------------He discussed it at length with all the other senior police officers who were involved in the cover up...
Taff Jones had nine months in which to tell a lot of people if he spoke to Sheila. He apparently didn't tell anyone.
Quote from: mike tesko on April 10, 2011, 11:17:AMNew Evidence - Sheila "apologizes for everything" when speaking to policeIn the very latest development linked to this case, police had evidence that Sheila was in contact with them, via the telephone interception, and she told DCI "Taff"Jones, that "she was sorry for everything she had done"...Documents which contained this information was withheld, marked "not to be disclosed under any circumstances"...Copies of the documents are being sent to the CCRC...Mike, is there any handwriting on the documents?
New Evidence - Sheila "apologizes for everything" when speaking to policeIn the very latest development linked to this case, police had evidence that Sheila was in contact with them, via the telephone interception, and she told DCI "Taff"Jones, that "she was sorry for everything she had done"...Documents which contained this information was withheld, marked "not to be disclosed under any circumstances"...Copies of the documents are being sent to the CCRC...
Quote from: mike tesko on April 10, 2011, 11:17:AMNew Evidence - Sheila "apologizes for everything" when speaking to policeIn the very latest development linked to this case, police had evidence that Sheila was in contact with them, via the telephone interception, and she told DCI "Taff"Jones, that "she was sorry for everything she had done"...Documents which contained this information was withheld, marked "not to be disclosed under any circumstances"...Copies of the documents are being sent to the CCRC...MikeI recall that you mentioned the possibilty of a tape recording of conversations with Sheila in WHF. Has the this now been confirmed to you and if so is this also being submitted to the CCRC?
Quote from: mike tesko on April 10, 2011, 11:17:AMNew Evidence - Sheila "apologizes for everything" when speaking to policeIn the very latest development linked to this case, police had evidence that Sheila was in contact with them, via the telephone interception, and she told DCI "Taff"Jones, that "she was sorry for everything she had done"...Documents which contained this information was withheld, marked "not to be disclosed under any circumstances"...Copies of the documents are being sent to the CCRC...I come home for some lunch and find this astonishing post. If Taff Jones's note book and/ or other key documents - which can be proven to be authentic - have surfaced after all these years and establish that Sheila was alive while Jeremy was outside the farm, then Jeremy Bamber will surely soon be a free man.If these new documents are authentic, then how can this fail to be indicative of the mother and father of a cover up, with Taff Jones up to his neck in it? Or why else would Jones have allowed the case to progress as he did?No need to tell you that it's not just the authenticity of whatever documents have surfaced which must be meticulously established, Mike, but also the relationship claims of the person claiming to be a distant relative of Taff's - and I mean no disrespect to this person. The official document trail between Jones and the distant relation will need to be 100% watertight to support the authenticity of this new data. If Jeremy' defence has not already obtained the relevent document trail verifying the ID of the document owner and his/her relationship with Jones beyond doubt, they must urgently do so. Such documents can be quickly checked in an hour or so and copies of documents proving the relationship ordered on line for next day delivery.
Quote from: mike tesko on April 10, 2011, 01:29:PMQuote from: Kaldin on April 10, 2011, 11:56:AMQuote from: mike tesko on April 10, 2011, 11:53:AMQuote from: Kaldin on April 10, 2011, 11:44:AMQuote from: mike tesko on April 10, 2011, 11:43:AMQuote from: Kaldin on April 10, 2011, 11:41:AMTaff Jones had nine months in which to tell a lot of people if he spoke to Sheila. He apparently didn't tell anyone.--------------He discussed it at length with all the other senior police officers who were involved in the cover up...How do you know that? He didn't bother to tell the relatives that he spoke to Sheila did he? He also didn't bother to tell Jeremy.-----------------He didn't need to tell the relatives, but it showed by his attitude towards them when they were trying to suggest that JB had killed everyone...He didn't need to speak to anyone, other than those who were directly involved in the cover up - and DS "Stan" Jones, by the way, was not privy to the cover up, in the early stages of the investigation, which is why he comes across as being a pain in the butt, to DCI "Taff" Jones, and the others - however, he was later brought into the circle and told the truth about what took place...The relatives became suspicious because they did not feel it was right, and so did DS "Stan" Jones, for different reasons:-The relatives and DS Jones, became suspicious because there was a cover up...He didn't need to, but there was nothing stopping him from doing so. Why would he not tell Jeremy and his relatives that he spoke to Sheila?-------------------------The cover up was designed to protect the image and reputation of EP, but if "Taff" Jones had not died he would have testified at JB's trial and told the truth...Why would Taff Jones decide to wait until the trial to drop the Essex police in it - presumably in a very public fashion? Did he have something against them?
Mike, I know I've already asked this further up... but.. Do you know if the documents have any handwriting upon them that could be compared to handwriting upon other already known contemporaneous documents linked to the case?
Quote from: Rochford Shields on April 10, 2011, 01:46:PMMike, I know I've already asked this further up... but.. Do you know if the documents have any handwriting upon them that could be compared to handwriting upon other already known contemporaneous documents linked to the case?----------------For what its worth I have copies of documents containing the handwriting of former DCI "Taff" Jones, which i will be making a comparison if and when I receive copies of the new material...
It is my understanding that "Taff" Jones in no way believed that Jeremy Bamber had anything to do with the murders and that he was very annoyed by the extended family´s meddling with the case.Was he annoyed simply because he believed or knew that JB didn´t do it - or because he was involved in a police-cover-up and wanted it kept in the dark?Strange timing of his death and strange death. Coincidences happen, but this one makes you wonder.
I am looking for confirmation of DCI "Taff" Jones, and his widows, next of kin?Can anybody help with this information, please...
Quote from: abs on April 10, 2011, 01:45:PMIt is my understanding that "Taff" Jones in no way believed that Jeremy Bamber had anything to do with the murders and that he was very annoyed by the extended family´s meddling with the case.Was he annoyed simply because he believed or knew that JB didn´t do it - or because he was involved in a police-cover-up and wanted it kept in the dark?Strange timing of his death and strange death. Coincidences happen, but this one makes you wonder.If he was so annoyed, he could simply have told them that he spoke to Sheila couldn't he?
