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« Reply #165 on: December 13, 2014, 05:34:PM »
Jeremy Bamber could not have shot his sister beneath the chin, killed her, or staged her death scene, as per the police photographs, taken after 10 O'clock. Nobody but the police are responsible for that /this...
I should think that if he shot her under the chin he must have been a contortionist if she as sitting down as the guilters say she was?

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« Reply #166 on: December 13, 2014, 05:44:PM »
I should think that if he shot her under the chin he must have been a contortionist if she as sitting down as the guilters say she was?

Yes, that is another strange thing. Skippy tried to explain this, but it came out all funny. I laughed a bit about it.

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« Reply #167 on: December 13, 2014, 06:40:PM »
I should think that if he shot her under the chin he must have been a contortionist if she as sitting down as the guilters say she was?

I haven't said that :P
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« Reply #168 on: December 13, 2014, 07:09:PM »
After 'Ron' Cooks arrival at the scene, at 9.20am, he too was shown around the various crime scenes inside the farmhouse. He became the 22nd person to traipse through the rooms of the farmhouse, before senior officers handed the scene over to SOCO, at 10 O'clock...

Why wasn't the farmhouse sealed off to  everybody after 8.10am, until Soco started and finished thier examination of the scene?
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« Reply #169 on: December 13, 2014, 07:16:PM »
After 'Ron' Cooks arrival at the scene, at 9.20am, he too was shown around the various crime scenes inside the farmhouse. He became the 22nd person to traipse through the rooms of the farmhouse, before senior officers handed the scene over to SOCO, at 10 O'clock...

Why wasn't the farmhouse sealed off to  everybody after 8.10am, until Soco started and finished thier examination of the scene?

Added into this conundrum are the claims that three different police officers removed the rifle from Sheila's body, step forward, 'Ron' Cook, step forward, 'Ivor' Montgomery, and step forward, PS Woodcock - so we have three police officers fighting eachother to remove the same rifle from Sheila's body (I don't believe it)...
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« Reply #170 on: December 13, 2014, 07:20:PM »
I haven't said that :P
Because you are a cut above others Caroline. ;D

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« Reply #171 on: December 13, 2014, 07:40:PM »
But...

we have a problem, officers, because 'Ron' cook claims he removed the rifle from Sheila's body and placed it against the bedroom window, in time for PC 'David' Bird to photograoh it in situ against the aforementioned bedroom window, as shown in photograph 23. Cook testified that he removed the rifle at a time when there was only himself, and the other three SOCO's present in the farmhouse, so prey tell us, can somebody educate us as to how PS Woodcock could possibly have been the first person to remove the rifle from Sheila, if 'Ron' Cook had removed the rifle already, at a time when only four SOCO officers were present inside the main bedroom, infact, they were the only ones inside the entire farmhouse when Cook removed the rifle from Sheila and placed it against the bedroom window...

How COULD Woodcock remove the rifle from Sheila's body and make it safe, if Cook had already removed it, and it was then resting against the bedroom window?
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« Reply #172 on: December 13, 2014, 07:46:PM »
Even more bizarre, how could 'Ivor' Montgomery, remove the same rifle from Sheila's body, that 'Ron' Cook, and, or PS Woodcock had already removed, it?
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« Reply #173 on: December 13, 2014, 07:46:PM »
Because you are a cut above others Caroline. ;D

Awww! Ta!  :) x
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« Reply #174 on: December 13, 2014, 07:47:PM »
So many contradictions. So much conflicting evidence. It's worth a re-trial if nothing else.
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« Reply #175 on: December 13, 2014, 07:49:PM »
So many contradictions. So much conflicting evidence. It's worth a re-trial if nothing else.
A blind man on a galloping horse can see that this trial was flawed.

Now that I do agree with!
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« Reply #176 on: December 13, 2014, 07:57:PM »
Caroline, how do you think Sheila and Jeremy each were placed when he shot her - which positions were they in approximately?

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« Reply #177 on: December 13, 2014, 08:08:PM »
So many contradictions. So much conflicting evidence. It's worth a re-trial if nothing else.
A blind man on a galloping horse can see that this trial was flawed.

Hi Lookout,

Yes, these particular 'contradictions' are worth trying to unravel, because those of us who would like justice in this case to be done, know that police stage managed Sheila's body on the floor with the rifle on top, and bible alongside. Now, 'Ron'Cook testified that when he removed the rifle from Sheila's body and placed it against the bedroom window, that there was only himself, and the other three SOCO's present inside the farmhouse, so neither 'Ivor' Montgomery, nor PS Woodcock, could have been present when 'Ron' Cook remoced the rifle he describes removing and leaning against the bedroom window. Logic dictates, that the event of removing a rifle from Sheila's body as described by 'Ivor' Montgomery, and PS Woodcock, must have occurred, either before the scene was handed over to SOCO by 10 O'clock, or later, once the rifle was repositioned back onto the body in the stage managing process, after 'Ron' Cook had already removed it, previously?

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« Reply #178 on: December 13, 2014, 08:12:PM »
Hi Lookout,

Yes, these particular 'contradictions' are worth trying to unravel, because those of us who would like justice in this case to be done, know that police stage managed Sheila's body on the floor with the rifle on top, and bible alongside. Now, 'Ron'Cook testified that when he removed the rifle from Sheila's body and placed it against the bedroom window, that there was only himself, and the other three SOCO's present inside the farmhouse, so neither 'Ivor' Montgomery, nor PS Woodcock, could have been present when 'Ron' Cook remoced the rifle he describes removing and leaning against the bedroom window. Logic dictates, that the event of removing a rifle from Sheila's body as described by 'Ivor' Montgomery, and PS Woodcock, must have occurred, either before the scene was handed over to SOCO by 10 O'clock, or later, once the rifle was repositioned back onto the body in the stage managing process, after 'Ron' Cook had already removed it, previously?






I fully agree with you Mike. So many things just don't add up at all. Plus there was a strong influence which determined Jeremys' conviction. Unlawful,or what ?

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« Reply #179 on: December 13, 2014, 08:22:PM »
Hi Lookout,

Yes, these particular 'contradictions' are worth trying to unravel, because those of us who would like justice in this case to be done, know that police stage managed Sheila's body on the floor with the rifle on top, and bible alongside. Now, 'Ron'Cook testified that when he removed the rifle from Sheila's body and placed it against the bedroom window, that there was only himself, and the other three SOCO's present inside the farmhouse, so neither 'Ivor' Montgomery, nor PS Woodcock, could have been present when 'Ron' Cook remoced the rifle he describes removing and leaning against the bedroom window. Logic dictates, that the event of removing a rifle from Sheila's body as described by 'Ivor' Montgomery, and PS Woodcock, must have occurred, either before the scene was handed over to SOCO by 10 O'clock, or later, once the rifle was repositioned back onto the body in the stage managing process, after 'Ron' Cook had already removed it, previously?

So, I have isolated 'Ron' Cooks involvement where he  removed the rifle from Sheila's body, and placed it against the bedroom window, at a time when no-one but he himself, and the other three SOCO's were present inside the farmhouse...

I can now reveal that PS Woodcock removed the rifle from Sheila's body at 11.15am...

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