Campion on Sheila's suicide note

[lookout]

 Yes,let's focus on the rest of the family,particularly Sheila who had more than a smidgin of a motive for ending her life,and indeed the lives of the others.
There are others, besides Jeremy being in continual focus all the time.

[Mr. Gee]

Yes,let's focus on the rest of the family,particularly Sheila who had more than a smidgin of a motive for ending her life,and indeed the lives of the others.
There are others, besides Jeremy being in continual focus all the time.

Remember that Jeremy never mentioned the word inheritance, only the word of someone else. It was the relatives who were more worried about money than Jeremy. So worried in fact that they got grannie to change her will and then not being satisfied with that connived to cheat him out of his shares in the caravan park so that the whole of the park belonged to them. In a word they bankrupt him.

[lookout]

Remember that Jeremy never mentioned the word inheritance, only the word of someone else. It was the relatives who were more worried about money than Jeremy. So worried in fact that they got grannie to change her will and then not being satisfied with that connived to cheat him out of his shares in the caravan park so that the whole of the park belonged to them. In a word they bankrupt him.

I'm more than aware of that Mr G. Absolutely lousy. And Jeremy got called greedy!! After the inheritance ? I don't think so. There are far easier ways of making sure you got your cut.
One thing that hasn't been mentioned is/was life insurance.I wonder if either Neville or June had any ?

[Alias]

Did ya Lookout? Mind you some of the photos that I've seen are really frightening. ....I thought he was OK until he roared in court hahahha 

Ted Bundy fooled everybody. He worked as a volunteer at a suicide crisis line right alongside the very good true crime writer, Ann Rule. She sometimes worked alone with him during the night! Never sensed anything was wrong with him.
She wrote a book about him, The Stranger Beside Me.

I think he was good looking actually, he was a master at hiding his true self for many years, only towards the end did he start to unravel.

BTW, I don´t think he was the worst serial killer there was. He is often used as the poster child of serial killers.
He was BAD, don´t misunderstand me, but he didn´t torture his victims. Mostly it was BAM, a quick kill, then he did awful things with their dead bodies. But thankfully his victims didn´t suffer for long like with other serial killers.

[susan]

Alias I think Peter Sutcliffe was on the style of Ted Bundy.  Think he got his sexual thrills after he killed them
Did Bundy just kill prostitutes?

[Jane]

Ted Bundy fooled everybody. He worked as a volunteer at a suicide crisis line right alongside the very good true crime writer, Ann Rule. She sometimes worked alone with him during the night! Never sensed anything was wrong with him.
She wrote a book about him, The Stranger Beside Me.

I think he was good looking actually, he was a master at hiding his true self for many years, only towards the end did he start to unravel.

BTW, I don´t think he was the worst serial killer there was. He is often used as the poster child of serial killers.
He was BAD, don´t misunderstand me, but he didn´t torture his victims. Mostly it was BAM, a quick kill, then he did awful things with their dead bodies. But thankfully his victims didn´t suffer for long like with other serial killers.

I seem to think I've read several true crime books written by Ann Rule.

[Alias]

Alias I think Peter Sutcliffe was on the style of Ted Bundy.  Think he got his sexual thrills after he killed them
Did Bundy just kill prostitutes?

Oh, no! I don´t think he killed prostitutes - he killed beautiful, dark haired, intelligent college girls first and foremost. They all looked like his ex fiancé who had dumped him.

[Alias]

I seem to think I've read several true crime books written by Ann Rule.

Her books are very good, I recommend them. I think she is the best true crime author - apart from Truman Capote who wrote, In Cold Blood, the only true crime book he wrote, but it is a masterpiece! In a sense, he started the whole genre with his book. It has been made into both films and tv series, all excellent.

[susan]

Alias thanks for that I must be thinking of Peter Sutcliffe he killed prostitutes to rid the world of evil but two of his victims were not prostitutes and that is why it was not generally believed that he heard voices from God telling to rid the world of evil

[lookout]

Going back to the dreadful tragedy in Australia,apparently the mother who seemingly took drugs and alcohol had spoken about turning her life around and started taking all the children to church,making them all sit in pews while she held the 18 month old one. Nobody had thought that she was religious,but seemingly her relatives were. The mother loved her children,but latterly began talking about God and that she could hear him talking to her.
All her children had 5 different fathers,who'd all previously arranged to collect their prospective children to take on holiday several miles away.
Ring any bells ?

[Jan]

Ted Bundy fooled everybody. He worked as a volunteer at a suicide crisis line right alongside the very good true crime writer, Ann Rule. She sometimes worked alone with him during the night! Never sensed anything was wrong with him.
She wrote a book about him, The Stranger Beside Me.

I think he was good looking actually, he was a master at hiding his true self for many years, only towards the end did he start to unravel.

BTW, I don´t think he was the worst serial killer there was. He is often used as the poster child of serial killers.
He was BAD, don´t misunderstand me, but he didn´t torture his victims. Mostly it was BAM, a quick kill, then he did awful things with their dead bodies. But thankfully his victims didn´t suffer for long like with other serial killers.

Thanks for that Alias - the book sounds interesting.

[lookout]

Going back to the dreadful tragedy in Australia,apparently the mother who seemingly took drugs and alcohol had spoken about turning her life around and started taking all the children to church,making them all sit in pews while she held the 18 month old one. Nobody had thought that she was religious,but seemingly her relatives were. The mother loved her children,but latterly began talking about God and that she could hear him talking to her.
All her children had 5 different fathers,who'd all previously arranged to collect their prospective children to take on holiday several miles away.
Ring any bells ?

Another similarity was that she could be seen running through the streets at 3am on the morning that the children were found dead.Also screaming at other children and confronting them,then wandered back home laughing to herself. Undoubtedly mad !

[maggie]

Another similarity was that she could be seen running through the streets at 3am on the morning that the children were found dead.Also screaming at other children and confronting them,then wandered back home laughing to herself. Undoubtedly mad !

Well if she took drugs and alcohol it could have been a mix of both plus mental illness or one or other plus or minus mental illness, hard to know really but the result was horrendous and tragic.

[lookout]

Well if she took drugs and alcohol it could have been a mix of both plus mental illness or one or other plus or minus mental illness, hard to know really but the result was horrendous and tragic.

Terrible,Maggie,terrible. The mother's in a secure unit until she's assessed.

[Alias]

Another similarity was that she could be seen running through the streets at 3am on the morning that the children were found dead.Also screaming at other children and confronting them,then wandered back home laughing to herself. Undoubtedly mad !

Oh, God, if only people would react to such things! If she did that, anyone could see that she was in no state to care for her children, and as it turned out, she was a danger to them. Poor babies, rest in peace.

In USA those mother-killings are on the rise, and that is due to cuts in the health sector. Mentally ill mothers get no help, and their children suffer and sometimes end up being killed. There has been a dramatic rise in such killings over the last few years.