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Offline mike tesko

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And so, members of the raid team, falsified the contents of their statements

Here is the altered 13 page witness statement of PS Woodcock, dated, 20th September 1985 - with four (4) missing pages, and one (1) retyped page content:-
« Last Edit: April 04, 2011, 10:11:PM by mike tesko »
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According to the retyped page five (5) contents, the kitchen table was overturned when armed police first entered the kitchen:-

So, how come by the time PC Bird started to take pictures at the scene from 10am, onwards, the kitchen table which was overturned at the time of entry by armed police officers, was now (by 10am) standing upright upon it own four legs with items and three bullet cases on top of its surface?

If the police did not touch anything, or move anything before PC Bird started to take his pictures - hiow come the kitchen table was no longer overturned by 10 Am?
« Last Edit: April 04, 2011, 10:26:PM by mike tesko »
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Who picked up the overturned kitchen table after armed police entered the kitchen at whf?
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Who picked up all those items and placed them back on top of the table before PC Bird started to take photographs at around 10 O'clock that morning?
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Who picked up the three bullet cases and placed them on top of the table?
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Where was the table overturned, in what part of the kitchen?
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The original location of all the items that were later photographed on top of the table, have not yet been properly explained, or positioned - why did the police stage manage the scene in the kitchen, and more importantly, who stage managed the kitchen scene?
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On page 4 of Woodcocks statement, he states that PC's Collins and Delgado, then went directly into the premises and the kitchen, but  - by the time PC Bird started to take crime scene pictures there, it would have been impossible for anyone to enter the kitchen, through the internal door, because there was a large wooden chair pushed up against the door on the inside of the kitchen, which would have prevented such an entry. According to EP, no-one moved or touched anything at all in the kitchen, until after PC Bird took his pictures, but the photographs themselves tell a completely different story...

If the police did not move or touch anything at all inside the kitchen, who uprighted the overturned kitchen table, and who placed that wooden chair behind the internal kitchen door - it couldn't have been Sheila, nor Jeremy, it could only have been the police...

So, why did EP stage manage the scene inside the kitchen at whf?
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It needs to be explained how the armed police managed to get into the kitchen, through the internal door behind the wooden chair?
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I agree with the bit about the table and also the chair near the kitchen door. I presume that was put there later for some reason.

I also agree that the "g" is different on page 5. Perhaps there are other differences too.

Would a firearms officer really notice all that stuff in such detail  - I mean things like sugar on the floor? They were looking for Sheila weren't they, so would they pay so much attention to that kind of detail?

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Interesting how he states that Sheilas body was laying flat but with her head propped up against the bedside table.I dont really want to have a look at her pic again,but was she not laying completely flat?

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Interesting how he states that Sheilas body was laying flat but with her head propped up against the bedside table.I dont really want to have a look at her pic again,but was she not laying completely flat?

Yes, that's strange. In the photos the blood had flowed across her face and slightly upwards which would defy the laws of gravity if her head was raised when that blood flowed.

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Also odd is that it has been stated lots of times that it was 15 minutes until they found Sheilas body because they cleared the cellar and the back of the house first.But here,Woodcock states that the cellar was searched last and by his version of events it seems they found Sheilas body fairly quickly???

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Interesting how he states that Sheilas body was laying flat but with her head propped up against the bedside table.I dont really want to have a look at her pic again,but was she not laying completely flat?

Yes, that's strange. In the photos the blood had flowed across her face and slightly upwards which would defy the laws of gravity if her head was raised when that blood flowed.

Blood may have flowed from her mouth in a different direction, if her head was moved by dog under bed.

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Interesting how he states that Sheilas body was laying flat but with her head propped up against the bedside table.I dont really want to have a look at her pic again,but was she not laying completely flat?

Yes, that's strange. In the photos the blood had flowed across her face and slightly upwards which would defy the laws of gravity if her head was raised when that blood flowed.


yes it actually flows into her eye socket