Author Topic: COLP interview of Robert Boutflour, dated 4th September 1991, 45 Pages:-  (Read 23293 times)

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Only then did the fun and games commence...

Cops decided to wait until the results were in for the piece of dried blood flake (DB/1) 23, which had been taken or sent to the Lab' by Essex police on the 30th August 1985..

Results were known by the 19th September 1985, which the caused Essex police to submit the 2nd Silencer (AE/1, CAE/1, DRB/1) to the Lab' to be checked for blood, and fibers!
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Cops decided to wait until the results were in for the piece of dried blood flake (DB/1) 23, which had been taken or sent to the Lab' by Essex police on the 30th August 1985..

Results were known by the 19th September 1985, which the caused Essex police to submit the 2nd Silencer (AE/1, CAE/1, DRB/1) to the Lab' to be checked for blood, and fibers!

There was ample time, in-between the handing over of the second silencer (11th September 1985) and it's submission to the Lab' (20th September 1985) to try to make that 2nd silencer, the one which David Boutflour had used a razor blade to scrape dried blood from 'it' ( AE/1, CAE/1, DRB/1), by deliberately scratching the kitchen mantelpiece with the end of the 2nd Silencer, so that paint particles became crushed into the knurled pattern of it, so that when it arrived at the Lab' and was examined (25th September 1985), it could be discovered, enabling cops to kill two birds with one stone - matching blood to the 2nd silencer, and paint which matched the scratched kitchen mantelpiece upon it!
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Cops still had a problem to overcome!
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Cops still had a problem to overcome!

David Boutflour had scraped the dried blood flake from the outside of one of the silencers, he had not found it inside!
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There can be no doubt that prior to or on the 30th August 1985, that Essex police received, or confiscated, the piece of dried blood flake (DB/1) 23, and the razor blade which David Boutflour had used to scrape the dried blood from the outside of the Silencer, and that this was sent to the Lab' on that date for analysis!

Meanwhile, Cook had a lot on his mind, he knew for example, that David Boutflour had scraped that dried blood flake from the outside of one of the silencers he had recovered - Cook would have realised or known that even if the blood turned out to be Sheila's blood, that the silencer could have got contaminated during its recovery and transportation in Ann Eaton's car to her house. So what Cook did (because at that time Cook didn't know about the existence of the second silencer, and he would not be made aware of its existence until the 11th September 1985, when Ann Eaton handed the 2nd silencer over to police), he dismantled the only silencer (SJ/1) cops had in their possession, looking to see if he could find any blood inside the 1st silencer ( SJ/1). In order to do this, he had to remove the metal end cap, followed by the withdrawal of the internalised top washer, and all of its baffle plates. Upon doing this he set about creating a gap between the metal cap, the top washer, and the following 5 or 6 baffle plates, to see if there was anything present there, for example, and in particular, blood!

He performed this examination on the day before he submitted item DB/1(23) to the Lab' ( the dried flake of blood David Boutflour scraped off the outside of one of two silencers that he recovered at the scene on 10th August 1985)! If Cook had found any blood on the internal baffle plates after he had dismantled 'SJ/1' on that occasion, it would have been he, and not the ballistics expert, who had supposedly found the crucial flake of blood which subsequently produced Sheila Caffell's blood group activity! The fact that Cook had tampered with the inner workings of the silencer before anyone at the Lab' had got chance to examine it (that silencer) throws considerable doubt upon the integrity of the silencer / blood group evidence associated to the silencer. It may also be worth taking into account, that Cook was also at the heart of a query involving a paint sample (RC/1) which DS Davidson told the COLP investigators in 1991, Cook had handed to him at whf on the 8th August 1985, because some paint had been found on the end of a guns barrel at the scene, and that one of the blood samples taken from Sheila Caffell's body during autopsy was unaccounted for!

One thing is certain, the ballistic Expert, Fletcher, didn't find the dried flake of blood in a silencer that he had dismantled at the Lab' by or before 12th September 1985, Fletcher has lied, he received the flake (DB/1) 23, and the razor blade, he handed the flake to the blood expert, Hayward...

What we are dealing with here, is a circle of crooks!
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There was no silencer at all at the Lab', at least neither of the two silencers, one or other of them, which David Boutflour had recovered from the scene on 10th August 1985, between 13th August 1985 and 20th September 1985, and so Fletcher couldn't have found Sheila's blood inside a silencer that he had possession of at the Lab' either on, or just before the 12th September 1985...
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Cops knew, just like the ballistic expert, Fletcher must have also known, that a presence of Sheila Caffells blood on the outside of a silencer, could have got there by innocent or accidental contamination, at the time of it's collection, removal, transportation, and storage by the relatives!

Of course by and after the 11th September 1985, and the hand over by Ann Eaton of the 2nd silencer (AE/1, CAE/1, DRB/1), cops had an even bigger headache to try to deal with!
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Cops knew, just like the ballistic expert, Fletcher must have also known, that a presence of Sheila Caffells blood on the outside of a silencer, could have got there by innocent or accidental contamination, at the time of it's collection, removal, transportation, and storage by the relatives!

Of course by and after the 11th September 1985, and the hand over by Ann Eaton of the 2nd silencer (AE/1, CAE/1, DRB/1), cops had an even bigger headache to try to deal with!

The following, is a list of all the problems the cops were faced with from that time (11th to 19th September 1985) onwards:-

(1) - they knew that David Boutflour had interfered with one of the two silencers, (a) by trying to unscrew the top off one of them, to look inside, and (b) that he had removed key blood evidence from the outside of one of the silencers by scraping it off with a razor blade, (c) but during this period the cops didn't know which of the two silencers Boutflour Jnr had tampered with.

(2) - there was no silencer at the Lab' between 13th August 1985 and 20th September 1985, which David Boutflour had recovered from the scene on 10th August 1985, (police had both silencers in their possession and at their disposal between 11th to the 20th September 1985), this became problematic because even when the testing of the flake of dried blood (DB/1) 23 produced corresponding blood group activity, no court in the Land would entertain it being admissible in evidence because of The alleged manner with which David Boutflour had come upon it.

(3) - it was then decided to pretend that one of the silencers had been sent along to the Lab' on 30th August 1985, in the 'guise of exhibit DB/1 (23), and that the flake of blood which produced the blood group activity belonging to Sheila Caffell had been discovered by the ballistic expert, Malcolm Fletcher, when he dismantled it at the Lab' on the 12th September 1985, and (a) how he had transferred the flake that same day to the blood expert, John Hayward. But, even this tactic was problematic, because the second silencer at the centre of this plot, did not get handed over to the police by Ann Eaton, until long after, it was supposed to have already been submitted to the Lab' on 30th August 1985, in the 'guise of exhibit DB/1 (23) effectively with Sheila Caffell's blood already inside it, (b) but, how could 'the' same silencer in whatever 'guise they would say it had been submitted to the Lab' on the 30th August 1985, be submitted to the Lab' on that date, when Ann Eaton had not yet even got around to handing over the second silencer to DC Oakey, and moreover she would not do so until almost two weeks afterwards!

(4) - additionally, as if the cops thought they could simply bluff their way out of the trench they had dug for themselves surrounding their direct involvement in the death of Sheila Caffell ( including the staging of her death scene there on the bedroom floor, presented by them to look like she had committed suicide by shooting herself), Cook himself, had dismantled one of the silencers, an exercise which he captured in photographs that he took, showing all the baffle plates removed, and gaps between the first 5 or 6 baffle plates, only to find that there was no blood at all inside that silencer! If there had been some blood in there, Cook would have found it, and he wouldn't have rebuilt the silencer again, and then screwed it directly onto the barrel of the anshuzt rifle like he did, and then supposedly submit the silencer ( SJ/1) (22) to the Lab' on the following day (30th August) only for the ballistic expert, to repeat the dismantling exercise which Cook had already done, only as if by magic, Fletcher supposedly found the blood which Cook hadn't seen, there in-between the first couple of baffle plates, which Cook himself had separated almost two weeks previously! Worse still, when Cook dismantled the silencer it had the exhibit reference SJ/1(22) associated with it, yet in the blinking of an eye, by the time it was whisked off to the Lab' for the attention of Fletcher, it was now supposedly sent and recieved there in the 'guise of exhibit DB/1(23)...

(5) - of course, by the time the matter came to trial the cops, the experts from the Lab' and the relatives, were all singing from the same hymn sheet, the silencer had been found by the relatives, police had submitted it to the Lab' for the experts to look at, and they found Sheila's blood inside it, and here it was being produced at court during the trial, passed around amongst everybody who testified about it, and even the jury members got to touch it, making them believe that it was a real piece of evidence, and that the silencer had been exhibit DRB/1 (22) on all the occasions mentioned during the proceedings, no mystery there then, just a good piece of detective work by the relatives, and the experts at the Lab' did the rest, but (a) the cops then had to set about altering all the documents which gave any mention of the silencer, all these different exhibit references, and changing the Lab' item numbers to try and make out a false case that there had only been just the one silencer, a silencer which on the face of it, was submitted to the Lab' on 30th August 1985, almost two weeks before Ann Eaton had even given that all  oh so key silencer (AE/1, CAE/1, DRB)1) to the police on the 11th September 1985...

(6) - It remains to be seen, how Essex police and the relatives are going to have to try and explain how Sheila Caffell's unique blood could have been found inside a silencer at the Lab' on the 12th September 1985, when the silencer in question, (DRB/1) wasn't even present at the Lab' and would not arrive there until some 8 days after Sheila's blood had already supposedly been found inside 'it'...
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These weren't mistakes that cops made, these were well directed and intended acts of deception! You can't go around swapping key exhibits about, and altering the exhibit references an item was first given, and argue that cops made a few mistakes!

These Criminals in uniform should have been locked up during the entire past 33 years or more for what they have done, and what they did! You can't put what they have done, or what they did down to a few mistakes! How can they have got the position of Sheila Caffell's body wrong in so far as where the raid team supposedly first saw or found her body? I mean, there must have been thirty to forty police at the scene surrounding the farmhouse or inside it, and nobody thought to mention that the raid team had got it wrong because there wasn't a female body downstairs, there wasn't the body of one dead female in the kitchen, there wasn't a dead person whose death was regarded as a murder, and there wasn't, another dead person who had committed suicide before the raid team eventually got upstairs and found only a further three bodies! Nobody challenged all these so called mistakes? What, you must be having a laugh...

These weren't mistakes, these references were made because at the time these messages were being passed, two bodies were downstairs, and only three bodies upstairs. It's not as though there were tens and tens of bodies all over the place! Each member of the raid team had a pair of hands upon which they had five fingers, on each hand, ample fingers you would think for them to be able to calculate how many bodies had been present downstairs and believed to be dead between 7.35am and 8.08am, and because by the time the raid team managed to get themselves upstairs, all of them would have known that they could all count the number of dead bodies that had been found already downstairs upon entry, on each one of their own hands (twice over) and still have sufficient fingers left to calculate into the equation that another three bodies upstairs, makes 1 + 1 = 2 + 1 + 1 + 1 = 5 dead, in total...
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The cops have got it recorded that there was a female body seen and a female body dead downstairs in the kitchen, and this evidence is backed up by timed messages, and they think they can get away with being exposed for the criminals that they were, by simply saying, ' oh, I, we mistook the dead male body for the body of a female, a mistake which was corrected in undisclosed witness ststements much later on'?  Sorry, but that don't wash, it's a pathetic explanation, because on each of the timed occasions when there is reference to there having been two dead bodies found in the kitchen, the reference to the dead male, always comes before any mention of there also being a dead female there too..

Members of the public should not believe the sort of bullshit that these coppers have been feeding them. Why can't the cowardly cops admit what they had done, and what they did?
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My logic on this point is good - I had a similar situation in one of my prosecution's when I was targeted by the then No.3 RCS, when they said they had two CID officers in an observation van at 5.20pm, on Wednesday 22nd January 1986, and these two low life scum bag bent criminalised coppers swore my life away saying they had identified me as the driver of a stolen vehicle which had supposedly pulled up outside the target premises they had under observation, but it turned out that the DI who was running the operation did not send one of these two Barnsley CID men to collect the observation van from Barnsley police station vehicle compound, until 5.55pm, that same date, a fact recorded in a police log, just like the ones involved in the Bamber case! The cops couldn't have been in that observation van when they said they had been there, and they couldn't have seen anybody who they thought had been me, because not only wasn't I there, but the bent Barnsley CID officers weren't there either!  I spent five and a half months in custody on those false allegations, and I have yet to be compensated by South Yorkshire police in relation to that matter! So, take it from me that Sheila was still alive inside the farmhouse, and hers was the female body in the kitchen, and rest assured that her body did not arrive upstairs in the bedroom until after 8.10am, in fact not until after 8.13am when the firearm operation was officially terminated!
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Also rest assured, that the prison service intercepted the photograph that I sent in to Jeremy proving that his sisters body was laid on top of the bed, prior to her body being moved onto the bedroom floor! Wait for it, yes, she had only been shot once to the neck before her body was moved onto the bedroom floor! Work it out for yourselves, who could possibly have been responsible for inflicting the second fatal shot to her neck?

If Sheila shot herself a second time like Jeremy and his team would have us believe, at some time after the photograph of Sheila had been taken of her body laid on top of the bed, shot once - please, do not even try to insult my intelligence by claiming she did or had shot herself on the second occasion, because if that had been true, you wouldn't have the cops suggesting that her blood which was linked to one of the two silencers, that was linked to one of the two silencers could only have got into one of the silencers, if somebody else had shot and killed her, and that afterwards the people responsible for killing her, had removed the silencer, and in some way, or some means concealed it in another part of the farmhouse, in the so called gun cupboard situated in a room known by the family, as the den...

All those of you who doubt what I am saying about me seeing Sheila's body laid on top of the parents bed, minus the rifle, minus the bible, minus the flowing blood which later flowed horizontally across her neck and her face, please contact the Home Office, and get confirmation that the letter I sent to Jeremy, with the enclosed photograph was intercepted, and that the letter itself and the photograph have never been made a available to Jeremy Bamber, or anybody who purports to be representing him...

They confiscated my letter to Jeremy which informed him of the photograph which I had taken possession of, which shows Sheila's body laid on top of the bed, before she had received the second shot which in fact killed her off. I have no reason to lie, in fact supporting my case is the fact that on the previous evening that I had spoken to Jeremy on the pay phone (HMP Full Sutton) I had told him how excited I was for him, because I had got a photograph of Sheila's body laid on top of her parents bed, before she had received the second shot which effectively killed her off instantaneously..

I ask the lot of you - how was it possible for the cops to take such a photograph on an occasion after she had originally been shot across the neck, and prior to the occasion when she had effectively had her life snuffed out, if Jeremy Bamber be his sisters killer, and he be the person who staged his sisters death scene as a suicide?

IT CAN'T HAVE BEEN JEREMY BAMBER WHO MURDERED HIS SISTER, and IT CAN'T HAVE BEEN JEREMY BAMBER WHO STAGED HIS SISTER'S DEATH THERE ON THE MAIN BEDROOM FLOOR AS A SUICIDE...

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Ask yourselves, why the Home Office withheld my letter and the photograph I took for Jeremy's benefit, if I am making any of this up? Why can't Jeremy and his present legal team get access to my letter, and that photograph?

The only reason I can think of, is that the photograph has been classified as Pii, and that as such the Home Office is not obliged to disclose any such material to a prisoner, or an appellant, or a defendant. And, the reason why I have not been prosecuted for taking 'it' from Ewen Smiths office in Birmingham, is because I did not seek to permanently deprive Essex police and the powers that be from access to it. On the contrary, I took possession of the said photograph with the specific intent of providing it to Jeremy Bamber, to force his release from incarceration by drawing attention to the said photograph......
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Ask yourselves, why the Home Office withheld my letter and the photograph I took for Jeremy's benefit, if I am making any of this up? Why can't Jeremy and his present legal team get access to my letter, and that photograph?

The only reason I can think of, is that the photograph has been classified as Pii, and that as such the Home Office is not obliged to disclose any such material to a prisoner, or an appellant, or a defendant. And, the reason why I have not been prosecuted for taking 'it' from Ewen Smiths office in Birmingham, is because I did not seek to permanently deprive Essex police and the powers that be from access to it. On the contrary, I took possession of the said photograph with the specific intent of providing it to Jeremy Bamber, to force his release from incarceration by drawing attention to the said photograph......

The contents of my letter to Jeremy on that occasion contains the shocking truth about who must have been responsible for Sheila's death on the bedroom floor, and it couldn't have been Jeremy Bamber who shot her dead, and if she had shot herself the cops would not only have said she had, but they would have stuck to that story and not altered their stance after a month into the original investigation, by claiming that Sheila's killer had removed the silencer from the guns barrel after she had died, and concealed 'it' in a cupboard downstairs, because if anybody removed a silencer from any gun, after Sheila was shot for the second time, the police have got to be responsible for hiding away any silencer, it can't have been anybody else but them! In fact, DS Jones whisked the silencer away from the scene on the first morning of the police investigation, without the knowledge of Cook and his SOCO team - a likely story if ever I heard one! Cook and everybody else knew that Jones had returned to the scene from Jeremy's cottage to take away the silencer (SBJ/1), only to return it a couple of days later when the dust has settled, which in turn led to its recovery along with a second silencer by David Boutflour on the following day!

I don't know how David Boutflour has got the cheek to remain silent for all these years pretending that he only recovered one silencer from inside the gun cupboard, when he made a statement to Essex police in September 1985 to the effect that he found a silencer in two different positions inside that gun cupboard!!!
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I don't know how David Boutflour has got the cheek to remain silent for all these years pretending that he only recovered one silencer from inside the gun cupboard, when he made a statement to Essex police in September 1985 to the effect that he found a silencer in two different positions inside that gun cupboard!!!
you can't get away with saying you found a silencer in two different places inside a small gun cupboard situated in the den at the scene, and in the next breath then say but there was only one silencer like the relatives have made out!
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