The Threat.

[Caroline]

Hi Jan

From the onset with PH I was never under the impression that he leaned toward Jeremy being innocent his main belief was to identify the corruption surrounding the case. That is more or less what he told me. So I was never under the impression that he thought Jeremy to be innocent.  Yet, I imagine I was mislead I suppose, into thinking that he swayed towards Jeremy.

For the life of me I cannot justify why he went to the press with such an article. If he had not done so them my opinion of him would be the same as it were prior to it. 

Anyway, I am tired out.....I need my beauty sleep lol Night Jan/All. 

The article indicates that he sought advice from the police, it also indicates that he "knew the investigation wouldn't get anywhere". (I guess because he can't prove who sent it and was told this). Perhaps he went to the press in order to highlight the incident and to send out a message to the sender! There seems to be an accusation that he made the whole thing up? Why would he? It's not going to promote a book that isn't due out until August and why would he be interested in bringing down this forum? It has a lot of members but only a handful that post. Doesn't make sense, he'd have far more to lose than gain!!

[lookout]

 In last years Scottish Sunday Mail,the news about the book was described as being a controversial one based on the innocence of Jeremy,saying that he was WRONGLY convicted ??

PH had spent eight years researching his book with interviews with relatives and friends,and studying court transcripts,besides numerous visits/conversations with Jeremy himself,as this he was doing on a weekly basis.

[Patti]

The article indicates that he sought advice from the police, it also indicates that he "knew the investigation wouldn't get anywhere". (I guess because he can't prove who sent it and was told this). Perhaps he went to the press in order to highlight the incident and to send out a message to the sender! There seems to be an accusation that he made the whole thing up? Why would he? It's not going to promote a book that isn't due out until August and why would he be interested in bringing down this forum? It has a lot of members but only a handful that post. Doesn't make sense, he'd have far more to lose than gain!!

Hi Caroline

The article indicates that he sought advice form a contact from the police meaning that he spoke to someone who was a policeman.  He does not say directly that he entered the police station waving an anonymous letter making death threats.

I am off two minds about all of this. I can agree with you that it might be unlikely that he made the whole thing up; however, I do have have my doubts of which I am entitled to have, like you are entitled to believe that the letter was drafted up by someone who knows NGB...and the only people that know NGB are people who post on this forum, the red forum and the campaign team. Therefore the letter has to have come from someone on here, the or the campaign team.  I doubt a letter would ever be sent by one of the campaign team to be honest.

It is not for us to decide who but straight away there were accusations that is was a female member of this forum.  If PH does not know who the letter is from then why are the minority of this forum making silly accusations that is was Jackie.

The letter could have come from anyone, but its more likely that it is someone who uses the forums.

Perhaps he did go to the press to highlight the incident, but why highlight the PM from Jackie and name her employer?  Do you honestly think that is the right thing to do? 

[JackiePreece]

The article indicates that he sought advice from the police, it also indicates that he "knew the investigation wouldn't get anywhere". (I guess because he can't prove who sent it and was told this). Perhaps he went to the press in order to highlight the incident and to send out a message to the sender! There seems to be an accusation that he made the whole thing up? Why would he? It's not going to promote a book that isn't due out until August and why would he be interested in bringing down this forum? It has a lot of members but only a handful that post. Doesn't make sense, he'd have far more to lose than gain!!

He said a contact in Scotland Yard, he did not say the police.
There are many staff at Scotland Yard that are NOT the police

He tries to give the impression he was scared but does NOT say he contacted the police

[lookout]

Hi Patti,the answer is in my above post which referred being to the book as being controversial. In other words,he thinks that Jeremy is indeed innocent,which would indeed spark a protest from some quarters who imagined that the book would have formed his guilt.

[JackiePreece]

The article indicates that he sought advice from the police, it also indicates that he "knew the investigation wouldn't get anywhere". (I guess because he can't prove who sent it and was told this). Perhaps he went to the press in order to highlight the incident and to send out a message to the sender! There seems to be an accusation that he made the whole thing up? Why would he? It's not going to promote a book that isn't due out until August and why would he be interested in bringing down this forum? It has a lot of members but only a handful that post. Doesn't make sense, he'd have far more to lose than gain!!

Clearly PH lied to the newspaper here

Why would he lie Caroline?

It's here in black and white where he says what I offered him

[lookout]

 The said headlines for that newspaper,read," Book Cop I'll Show Bambers Innocence ".

[lookout]

 This was stated in July of last year.Had he finished the book ?

[guest7363]

He said a contact in Scotland Yard, he did not say the police.
There are many staff at Scotland Yard that are NOT the police

He tries to give the impression he was scared but does NOT say he contacted the police

I must have read it wrong i thought he said police Scotland?

[andrea]

I must have read it wrong i thought he said police Scotland?

He did say he contacted Police Scotland. He doesn't mention Scotland Yard.

[guest7363]

He did say he contacted Police Scotland. He doesn't mention Scotland Yard.

Thanks Andrea i thought i was reading wrong.

[JackiePreece]

I must have read it wrong i thought he said police Scotland?

My mistake

[JackiePreece]

Thanks Andrea i thought i was reading wrong.

Why do you think PH lied to the newspaper?

[Mr. Gee]

He didn't name the person who sent the letter, he just said that it was a disciple of Bamber that sent it. he didn't name names.

This article goes  to prove that the pen is mightier than the sword and he knew it.
Strange though that those who were in support of him are now against him and those who were against him cannot see that they are doing exactly the same as they are accusing his former supporters of. I suppose that's just the thinking of prejudice? Except in this instance the libel cannot be seen by the accusers.

[Jan]

Lookout you are correct about the article in 2013 - but I think it was bad reporting

the headline said book cop I will show bambers innocent / innocence?

but it read as follows


 controversial new book claims that Jeremy Bamber was wrongly convicted for murdering his family.

 Bamber was jailed for killing five members of his family - including his six-year-old twin nephews - in Essex in 1985 and later told that he would never be released.

 But he claims his mentally ill sister Sheila Caffell shot her mum, dad and sons before turning the gun on herself.

 Paul Harrison, a former policeman who lives on Sanday in Orkney, has been in touch with Bamber, now 52, on an almost weekly basis.

 He has spent eight years researching his book Dead Bodies Don't Move, studying court transcripts and police files, interviewing relatives and friends and has had many conservations with Bamber.

 Harrison said: "It is not for me to say Jeremy is innocent, but his conviction is unsound

. There has been a miscarriage of justice

, of that I'm sure."

 The book will look at several areas of crucial evidence including why the murder weapon was moved several times in photographs taken by forensics experts in the aftermath of the bloodbath? Bamber also claims that police contaminated the crime scene and a telephone log, not used at his trial, appears to support his claim that Sheila carried out the shooting.

 The document suggests that the father Nevill Bamber phoned police to say his daughter had gone "berserk



". This was JULY 2013

So he was still not willing to commit except to say that JB should not have been convicted on the evidence used in court.
I would assume that he would be with holding his ace card for the book.

So now it looks like he is saying he was framed in some way for "the noble cause"  . And we have heard that a lot over the last few months.

Well I guess he has information none of us are privy to . So the sooner he publishes the better.