The Threat.

[JackiePreece]

Mr. Gee/jansus   think if Paul Harrison reveals new evidence that proves conclusively that Jeremy is Guilty it will put an end to the MOJ IMO

There isn't any Susan, haven't you worked it out yet, someone cannot tell the truth
Fact

[Mr. Gee]

I don't think Scipio is saying he did - he is saying that that MD has the right to put it in a paper because he has the right to assume he did.

Which stinks - the law not Scipio

The law stinks if that is true, especially if prisoners get the vote. If they get the vote then that means the law counts them as worthy citizens and if they are worthy citizens then they have a reputation that can be libelled.

[Jan]

Mr. Gee/jansus   think if Paul Harrison reveals new evidence that proves conclusively that Jeremy is Guilty it will put an end to the MOJ IMO

But he is in jail so in theory the proof exists anyway. And that has not stopped it so far has it?

[scipio_usmc]

Which of course they do all the time. I thought you said he wouldn't have as it would damage his case?

My points are pretty clear.

If someone receives a threat purportedly from someone they have a basis to suggest that person threatened them.  It doesn't matter if they would have to be stupid to send such threat some people are that stupid and don't care. 

If there is ironclad evidence that proves a third pary else did it but someone still keeps claiming that the original person did it then at that point the accuser is on shaky ground.

The law looks at whether someone has a basis to know the claim is false (knows or should know it is false) but makes it anyway.   

[Mr. Gee]

Mr. Gee/jansus   think if Paul Harrison reveals new evidence that proves conclusively that Jeremy is Guilty it will put an end to the MOJ IMO

Susan the pivotal word is "conclusively". This word in itself proves that the proof that he is guilty is still in doubt. On the other hand if conclusive proof comes to light that he is innocent then I wonder just how many people on here will acknowledge that they have been wrong? I venture to speculate that there will be very few indeed?

[scipio_usmc]

Mr. Gee/jansus   think if Paul Harrison reveals new evidence that proves conclusively that Jeremy is Guilty it will put an end to the MOJ IMO

I don't know what new evidence could possibly exist.  At best he can dispell some of the myths of the pro Jeremy camp and present the known evidence which is it not really new at all. 

 

[susan]

Jansus surely if evidence has come to light that proves Jeremy is guilty surely posters like you and Mr Gee will be quite relieved that he is serving life and is where he deserves to be.  Had his book been proving Jeremy is innocent I am sure your reaction would be different.  I really cannot see why he should be attacked on this forum like he is being.

[Jan]

in a way its more cowardly than a post on a forum . I know people can hide behind an IP address but I am sure they are traceable if people know how.

But you never know they may have slipped up .

[Adam]

Jansus surely if evidence has come to light that proves Jeremy is guilty surely posters like you and Mr Gee will be quite relieved that he is serving life and is where he deserves to be.  Had his book been proving Jeremy is innocent I am sure your reaction would be different.  I really cannot see why he should be attacked on this forum like he is being.

'If'

Did the police and DPP not charge him on evidence ?

[Neil]

There isn't any Susan, haven't you worked it out yet, someone cannot tell the truth
Fact

The suggestion that Jeremy orchestrated this letter is absurd and as far as I can tell, nobody on here, on either side of the fence, believes that he is.
Why then, has this news paper attempted to create this impression?....To sell copy of course.

[Jan]

Jansus surely if evidence has come to light that proves Jeremy is guilty surely posters like you and Mr Gee will be quite relieved that he is serving life and is where he deserves to be.  Had his book been proving Jeremy is innocent I am sure your reaction would be different.  I really cannot see why he should be attacked on this forum like he is being.

I think there is proof and there is proof if you see what I mean.

Of course I would not support him if there was definitive proof - I am just struggling to see what that could be the same as I am struggling to see what could release him now.

[Patti]

Susan the pivotal word is "conclusively". This word in itself proves that the proof that he is guilty is still in doubt. On the other hand if conclusive proof comes to light that he is innocent then I wonder just how many people on here will acknowledge that they have been wrong? I venture to speculate that there will be very few indeed?

It could also depend on the strength of his new claimed evidence that proves it was not a MOJ. I would think if an author is going to sell a book about a true crime then every bit research should be backed up and not based on hearsay....or a wallet lol Sorry Caroline could not resist that. 

[Jan]

'If'

Did the police and DPP not charge him on evidence ?

Adam can you read your pm please I am waiting for an answer as to why you are implicating me?

[susan]

Mr. Gee I can assure you I would hold my hands up don't forget I have been on both sides of the fence and it took me quite awhile to accept my change in stance.  I am always open to have my mind changed if somebody can help me and convince me I am wrong thinking he is guilty.   Telling me that Paul Harrison does not have evidence does not help at all.

[scipio_usmc]

Jansus surely if evidence has come to light that proves Jeremy is guilty surely posters like you and Mr Gee will be quite relieved that he is serving life and is where he deserves to be.  Had his book been proving Jeremy is innocent I am sure your reaction would be different.  I really cannot see why he should be attacked on this forum like he is being.

The evidence that proves his guilt conclusively came to light many years ago.

Jeremy has no realistic chance of ever being exonerated.  The best that can be had is to try to rehabilitate his public image by getting people to think he was wronged and is innocent.

His book can threaten Jeremy's public support by publicly smashing the myths his supporters rely upon.  His public support already has waned anyway. It was at its greatest when the press was spouting his claims of innocence but he CCRC rejection of his appeal means the public largely consideres Jeremy guilty and doesn't care.

The book thus at best will stand in the way of future recruitment. I doubt too many people will care and buy the book though anyway there are already so many on the subject.