The Threat.

[Jan]

At least Harrison has come to his senses about the case and can see that what we told him all along is true.  Another deluded soul set straight, that must be a bonus!

I will look forward to reading his book in August now that it has become a book of fact and not fantasy.

might not sell so well though . A book confirming someone who is in jail should be there?. Like you say to the guilters  Jeremy is a non entity so why would they bother to read it? they already have all the proof they need. and the moron supporters wont bother to read it. So not on the best sellers list then

[scipio_usmc]

It is technically libellous of Jeremy, but the problem he faces is that as someone convicted of mass murder he is deemed not to have a character to defame.  He would therefore not get anywhere.

I think the journalist was obliged to invite me to comment if he intended to use my name in the article.  He clearly intended to use my name as it featured prominently in the letter and I can understand that he needed to find out what my views were.  To say I was shocked is an understatement.

 

I see two problems for suing for libel.

1) as you identified he has no good name to ruin so peopel are free to essentially make up anythign they want wih impunity

2) Even if he had some image left to ruin, the bar for proving a lie for a public figure is pretty high.  Unless it ocudl be shown the reporter sent it himself or knew for sure who did then there is a reasonable basis to believe Jerey is behind it based on the content.

If someone sent a threat in my name and the person receiving it claimed I threatend them they had a factual basis to believe I threatened them.  If an investigation proved I didn't send such threat and at that point they still accused me then at that point they have no real defense.

An ambiguous letter with an ambiguous threat would be much easier to sue over if someone decided to attribute it to someone without having any evidence to support it. An overt threat in contrast provides its own attribution.

Some people on the planet are actually dumb enough to make overt threats like this but I don't believe Jeremy is one of them.   That doesn't deprive someone receiving such threat of having the right to believing it was from him though.  Only clear proof someone else did it would eliminate such right.

 

   

[nugnug]

her he is.

http://www.murderarchiveuk.com/paul-harrison.html

i thouht there might be somthing on there about it but there isnt.

[Caroline]

Judging by the reaction of some on here in my opinion the letter writer is definitely a guilter. That is the only thing that can explain the comments of a few of the guilters on here. It is the oldest trick in the book in order to blacken someone's name. To send a threatening letter pretending to be that person. There are plenty of gullible morons out there who will believe it.

Meaning who?

[Adam]

Bamber has since been told he will never be released from jail, despite his insistence that Ms Caffell carried out the murders and then turned the gun on herself.

Mr Harrison said he began researching the case suspecting there may have been a miscarriage of justice but has since come to the conclusion that the police got the right man.

[Mr. Gee]

might not sell so well though . A book confirming someone who is in jail should be there?. Like you say to the guilters  Jeremy is a non entity so why would they bother to read it? they already have all the proof they need. and the moron supporters wont bother to read it. So not on the best sellers list then

lol  I can just see the advert now, "Convicted murderer proved guilty after 30 years". Public reaction: Yes....and?

[Adam]

This is similar to the 'Crimes, hearts and coronets' author. Who went into the case suspecting it may have been a MOJ. But finished believing more strongly in Jeremy's guilt.

[Jan]

At least Harrison has come to his senses about the case and can see that what we told him all along is true.  Another deluded soul set straight, that must be a bonus!

I will look forward to reading his book in August now that it has become a book of fact and not fantasy.

So you think a letter with a death threat has resulted in a bonus?

Really?

[Mr. Gee]

I see two problems for suing for libel.

1) as you identified he has no good name to ruin so peopel are free to essentially make up anythign they want wih impunity

2) Even if he had some image left to ruin, the bar for proving a lie for a public figure is pretty high.  Unless it ocudl be shown the reporter sent it himself or knew for sure who did then there is a reasonable basis to believe Jerey is behind it based on the content.

If someone sent a threat in my name and the person receiving it claimed I threatend them they had a factual basis to believe I threatened them.  If an investigation proved I didn't send such threat and at that point they still accused me then at that point they have no real defense.

An ambiguous letter with an ambiguous threat would be much easier to sue over if someone decided to attribute it to someone without having any evidence to support it. An overt threat in contrast provides its own attribution.

Some people on the planet are actually dumb enough to make overt threats like this but I don't believe Jeremy is one of them.   That doesn't deprive someone receiving such threat of having the right to believing it was from him though.  Only clear proof someone else did it would eliminate such right.

 

   

Which of course they do all the time. I thought you said he wouldn't have as it would damage his case?

[Jan]

This is similar to the 'Crimes, hearts and coronets' author. Who went into the case suspecting it may have been a MOJ. But finished believing more strongly in Jeremy's guilt.

I am waiting for your reply to my post Adam. What did you mean by mentioning my name?

[Mr. Gee]

Meaning who?

Not you

[scipio_usmc]

I for one, don't believe that if such a letter exists, Jackie has anything to do with it.  Those who have implied that she has, are very much out of order.  It looks like a stitch up to me.

This is why I don't read the papers.....where's the letter? Has anyone actually seen it?

As they say, "there's no such thing as bad publicity"

If you received a death threat, would you;

a).  Contact the Police?
Or
b).  Contact a grubby tabloid newspaper?

It depends on whether you take the threat seriously.  I have been threatend multiple times and the only time I notified the police was not when I was scared the person would actually come to attack me but to docuemn the threat and then use it to have the person's professional license revoked. 

Unless Jeremy actually gets out of jail he can't carry out the threat and contrary to the letter there is no sign he has any chance of being relesed imminently.  So there was no reason to call the police to fear Jeremy though he apparently did because it supposedly being investigated.  The investigation is to find out who sent it though because obviously Jeremy didn't mail it.  It will be interesting if they find out who did send it though in most instances you have to be very careless to get caught sending a letter.

Unless your fingerprints are on file and you got your prints on it or you mailed it in some unique way that a camera captured you or some witness saw you forget it.

 

[Jan]

Which of course they do all the time. I thought you said he wouldn't have as it would damage his case?

I don't think Scipio is saying he did - he is saying that that MD has the right to put it in a paper because he has the right to assume he did.

Which stinks - the law not Scipio

[susan]

Mr. Gee/jansus   think if Paul Harrison reveals new evidence that proves conclusively that Jeremy is Guilty it will put an end to the MOJ IMO

[JackiePreece]

might not sell so well though . A book confirming someone who is in jail should be there?. Like you say to the guilters  Jeremy is a non entity so why would they bother to read it? they already have all the proof they need. and the moron supporters wont bother to read it. So not on the best sellers list then

So well put Jansus, no money to be made out of Jeremy this time